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and another thing Aisha Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM
If they were currently int he military I would like them even more for doing that. Because they are currently putting their asses on the line for this country and being told they cant publicly come out. how fucked up is that. you can take a bullet for Uncle Sam, but you cant admit to him that youre gay?

Six U.S. military veterans chained themselves to the White House fence Tuesday afternoon in order to protest the "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Participants, who were removed from the fence and arrested around 1 p.m., included Lt. Dan Choi (pictured) and Capt. Jim Pietrangelo, who were arrested in a similar action last month.

The Advocate's Washington correspondent Kerry Eleveld tweeted from the scene around noon Tuesday:

"6 vets just handcuffed themselves to the WH gates again protesting."

By 1 p.m., according to Eleveld, all the activists had been removed from the fence and placed in a police vehicle about to leave the scene.

Guys, this is not the way to make your point. Using your uniform to make a political point offends me. The military should be a completely non-political organization. You knew the policy when you signed up, so if you're going to fight it, get out and fight it from the outside.

And for the record, if I am lying by the road bleeding, I don't care if the medic coming to save me is gay. I just hope he is one of those buff gay guys who are always in the gym so he can throw me over his shoulder and get me out of there.
Aisha - formerly known as randschicka
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1348 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 398 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 849 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 786 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 784 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 363 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 805 Views
I've seen it. - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 790 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 825 Views
perhaps not on its own - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 757 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 868 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 818 Views
Could be. - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 785 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 344 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 1013 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 927 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 738 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 821 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 372 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 802 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 973 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 838 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 759 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 793 Views
The F/A18 does OK - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 723 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 789 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1150 Views
Oh not entirely - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1069 Views
I second that UGH *NM* - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 347 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 768 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 379 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 786 Views
Not in uniform. - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 910 Views
oh puhlease - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 844 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 967 Views
and another thing - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 819 Views
I'm on their side, BUT - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 796 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 865 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 395 Views
Thing is though - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 898 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 804 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 874 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 795 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 340 Views
The funny thing about it is - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 902 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 761 Views
Actually -the question isn't right - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 669 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 733 Views
Is he? - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 803 Views
Apparently - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 906 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 788 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 785 Views
very true - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 806 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 852 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 838 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 750 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 780 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 805 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 908 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 862 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 655 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1111 Views
and I think they will get it - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 910 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 378 Views
Wow, - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 778 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 928 Views
Le sigh. - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 748 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 862 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 839 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 764 Views

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