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The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM
Someone else in this post who 1. understands American history(after all this country was founded on breaking the rules; otherwise we would all still be part of the UK and 2. can understand that one can not just look from a close up view and needs to take the big picture view.

I wonder if people really think that women, for instance, got enfranchised by following the rules at first.


After all, the protesters were wearing women's clothing, which is a violation of the domesticity and submissiveness for which that clothing stands.
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1416 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 423 Views
Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM 924 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go Isaac - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 923 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 848 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 853 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 387 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing Isaac - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 867 Views
I've seen it. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 846 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 891 Views
perhaps not on its own LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 824 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 933 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 914 Views
Could be. SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 852 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 370 Views
Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM 377 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 1078 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids random thoughts - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 990 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 806 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 888 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 396 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 865 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 1036 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 909 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 816 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 857 Views
The F/A18 does OK random thoughts - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 785 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 850 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1240 Views
Oh not entirely SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1132 Views
I second that UGH *NM* Aisha - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 375 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 857 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 406 Views
That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM 870 Views
*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM 832 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 862 Views
Not in uniform. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 988 Views
oh puhlease Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 914 Views
It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM 886 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 1037 Views
and another thing Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 898 Views
I'm on their side, BUT beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 862 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 924 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 420 Views
Thing is though SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 966 Views
Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM 1064 Views
What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers. Tim - 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM 827 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way snoopcester - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 868 Views
It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM 836 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Dannymac - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 942 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Aisha - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 859 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 365 Views
Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM* Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM 335 Views
The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM 956 Views
The funny thing about it is SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 962 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is Bored - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 828 Views
Actually -the question isn't right SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 737 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in Isaac - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 798 Views
Is he? SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 862 Views
Apparently Isaac - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 966 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 856 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 848 Views
very true random thoughts - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 893 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 919 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same random thoughts - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 903 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 815 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 848 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 871 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 973 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 944 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. LiterateDog - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 718 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1191 Views
and I think they will get it random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 977 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 404 Views
Wow, The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 845 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 996 Views
Le sigh. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 815 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 928 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 910 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 827 Views
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