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Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM
I was sure about the uniform because so the officers have so many strange mess dress uniforms that I can’t keep up with them all.

I am the only Marine in a room full of ex air force guys so chair force jokes just come naturally to me. Of course I probably wouldn’t make that joke to Buzz since he earned that chest full of ribbons the hard way and some of them are rather impressive;)


Some of my favorite fliers from the 2nd World War were US Marines - so they get full measure for having good pilots.

There are plenty of courageous Air Force guys besides Buzz. I worked for a Captain who I only once saw in dress uniform. He had a ribbon that I'd never seen anyone else with marked with stars such that he'd gotten it ten times.

I looked it up later. Air Medals. Ten frackin' Air medals.

Now one of them - that would be cool but not THAT impressive. They're not silver or bronze star level as I understand it. But TEN? That takes real work.

Lots of unsung heroes out there. I'm sure that's just as true for the Army, the Marines the Navy etc.

For every battle honor won - a thousand heroes die -
Unsung and unremembered.
May God stand between you and harm in all the empty places you must walk.

Old Egyptian Blessing
Air Medal
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I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:29:45 AM 1418 Views
...did you read the article? They aren't in the military any more. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 05:31:02 AM 423 Views
Really? A few months ago Lt. Choi was still in the military, I didn't realize he'd been discharged beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:37:47 AM 924 Views
No, in or out it's a no-go Isaac - 21/04/2010 05:48:25 AM 923 Views
There needs to be a rule that stops soldiers from wearing uniforms in bars beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:55:37 AM 850 Views
But if you aren't wearing your uniform at the bar... beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:58:33 AM 853 Views
You wear a big sign that says I'M AWESOME: ASK ME HOW *NM* beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 07:01:45 AM 387 Views
Grabbing a beer with the guys after work is a pretty normal thing Isaac - 21/04/2010 07:45:16 AM 867 Views
I've seen it. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 12:52:59 PM 847 Views
Not a very fair way to look at it Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:10:47 PM 893 Views
perhaps not on its own LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:09 PM 824 Views
Sadly that's not that uncommon SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:27:45 PM 933 Views
to be honest, I've probably met plenty of wonderful military people in the bars LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:41:30 PM 914 Views
Could be. SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:45:29 PM 854 Views
every think the problem might be the uptight college kids? *NM* random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:10:08 PM 370 Views
Excepting possibly finals period, I'm pretty sure "uptight college kid" is an oxymoron. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/04/2010 07:07:58 PM 377 Views
uptight college kids don't go drink in Aggieville. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 07:17:17 PM 1080 Views
maybe I should have said stuck up college kids random thoughts - 22/04/2010 08:29:18 PM 990 Views
Uhm, no, college towns can be quite different. LadyLorraine - 22/04/2010 10:13:41 PM 808 Views
The navy and Marine do have rules against it at least for working uniforms random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:06:10 PM 888 Views
Like Buzz Aldrin wearing his on Dancing with the Stars. Ugh. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:37:59 PM 396 Views
I'll bet he got permission to do that though. SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:26:43 PM 865 Views
well that was an air force uniform so it really doesn't count as military random thoughts - 21/04/2010 04:00:27 PM 1036 Views
I'll remind you of that next time you want air support ;-) SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 06:00:32 PM 910 Views
I am a Marine we have our own air support random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:15:01 PM 818 Views
Yeah - some of it pretty good too but still all small stuff SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 07:26:12 PM 858 Views
The F/A18 does OK random thoughts - 21/04/2010 10:11:13 PM 786 Views
It's all right, but not the best choice SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:30:07 PM 850 Views
jack of all trades pretty much defines the Marines random thoughts - 22/04/2010 05:13:21 PM 1241 Views
Oh not entirely SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 09:54:21 PM 1133 Views
I second that UGH *NM* Aisha - 21/04/2010 10:30:35 PM 375 Views
Hm. That seems to violate some significant 1st Amendment rights. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 07:00:59 PM 858 Views
you forget that the military sign away their rights. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 07:06:52 PM 406 Views
That's why I specified dishonorably discharged. They're no longer in the military. Ghavrel - 21/04/2010 08:43:22 PM 871 Views
*shrug* sorry, I'm a bit cynical over how much the military EVER lets go. LadyLorraine - 21/04/2010 10:13:51 PM 834 Views
Re: I'm in favor of repealing DADT, but this made me briefly reconsider Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:36:48 AM 862 Views
Not in uniform. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:38:50 AM 988 Views
oh puhlease Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:43:15 AM 915 Views
It's not a just a piece of clothing, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on that. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:45:52 AM 886 Views
I agree with you, Aisha. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:15:30 PM 1038 Views
and another thing Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:38:53 AM 898 Views
I'm on their side, BUT beckstcw - 21/04/2010 05:44:00 AM 862 Views
Re: I'm on their side, BUT Aisha - 21/04/2010 05:57:50 AM 924 Views
Like I said, we simply disagree *NM* beckstcw - 21/04/2010 06:35:27 AM 420 Views
Thing is though SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:31:05 PM 966 Views
Well... it's a military policy. If they were protesting animal cruelty while wearing it, I'd agree beetnemesis - 21/04/2010 06:53:36 AM 1065 Views
What beetnemesis said. They're not talking about rights for all gays, but rights for gay soldiers. Tim - 21/04/2010 09:54:09 AM 827 Views
Sounds a bit like they are damned either way snoopcester - 21/04/2010 11:01:36 AM 869 Views
It's peaceful and non-violent. I see nothing wrong with them making their point in this in addition The Shrike - 21/04/2010 02:12:54 PM 836 Views
A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Dannymac - 21/04/2010 02:28:40 PM 942 Views
Re: A soldier protesting a military doctrine has the right. Aisha - 21/04/2010 02:34:34 PM 860 Views
they don't have the right to use the uniform to make that free expression *NM* random thoughts - 21/04/2010 02:39:45 PM 365 Views
Take it up with congress, the regulations are clear, no such right exists, it is expressly banned *NM* Isaac - 21/04/2010 02:46:14 PM 335 Views
The uniform isn't just handed to you after Basic with no strings attached. beckstcw - 21/04/2010 03:04:32 PM 959 Views
The funny thing about it is SilverWarder - 21/04/2010 03:35:51 PM 963 Views
Re: The funny thing about it is Bored - 21/04/2010 10:12:57 PM 828 Views
Actually -the question isn't right SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:38:03 PM 737 Views
What's bugging me is that Choi is still in Isaac - 22/04/2010 04:44:50 PM 798 Views
Is he? SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:47:37 PM 864 Views
Apparently Isaac - 22/04/2010 05:12:44 PM 967 Views
I think your attitude is likely to be common among active duty and vets alike. Sareitha Sedai - 21/04/2010 02:44:29 PM 856 Views
Actually, darlin', we don't have to convince them. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:34:49 PM 853 Views
very true random thoughts - 21/04/2010 03:51:49 PM 893 Views
But these men didn't disrespect anything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:09:20 PM 919 Views
the problem is uniforms are about more than everyone dressing the same random thoughts - 21/04/2010 05:55:31 PM 909 Views
The statistics show that nearly 70% of Americans think gay men and women should serve openly. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 815 Views
And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:17:02 PM 848 Views
Re: And going back to the Truman example, he doesn't even have to show Truman's courage. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:25:46 PM 871 Views
That dude is all talk about everything. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:27:07 PM 977 Views
Well he wasn't all talk about Health care SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 04:44:39 PM 944 Views
Yes, the main thing he has followed through on is the most disastrous. LiterateDog - 22/04/2010 04:59:45 PM 721 Views
Well, I'm not convinced on that SilverWarder - 22/04/2010 10:02:58 PM 1191 Views
and I think they will get it random thoughts - 21/04/2010 06:05:07 PM 979 Views
Civil disobedience against immoral government action often involves breaking the rules. *NM* LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 PM 404 Views
Wow, The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:04:42 PM 847 Views
I'm sure female protesters made a lot of people reconsider the suffrage movement. Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:09:37 PM 997 Views
Le sigh. The Shrike - 21/04/2010 04:16:17 PM 815 Views
The bravey of those men is exactly what that 'clothing' stands for. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:20:19 PM 929 Views
The above post was sarcasm, in case that wasn't clear... Dreaded Anomaly - 21/04/2010 04:43:44 PM 910 Views
I knew it was sarcasm. LiterateDog - 21/04/2010 04:54:11 PM 829 Views
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