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Except to do the opposite of what he intended it snoopcester Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 11:15:20 AM
Suppose you have two independent clauses conjoined: "I like owlbears, and you like hobgoblins." The comma is necessary, of course.

No. The "and" does the joining bit for you. You can have the comma if it's going to be said with a pause. Doesn't need to be there, though.


The comma in that serves to indicate that the part after it is just a bit of extra information rather than a key part of the sentence and doesn't change the meaning of it. Like saying "The other day I met Bob's wife, Roberta."
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I cast Summon Grammar Nazi. Burr - 23/04/2010 02:24:27 AM 1493 Views
I don't actually KNOW LadyLorraine - 23/04/2010 02:46:24 AM 428 Views
She doesn't know; I didn't care Larry - 23/04/2010 03:22:42 AM 444 Views
I think the first 2 are OK either way, but the third is wrong (essential clause). *NM* BlackAdder - 23/04/2010 03:44:10 AM 370 Views
I like owlbears and you, like hobgoblins. Birdeye - 23/04/2010 03:59:31 AM 478 Views
I imagine someone speaking in a Tonto voice, with the sentence structured like that. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/05/2010 03:07:39 AM 369 Views
How the heck did I read Summer Glau here? ironclad - 23/04/2010 07:57:06 AM 401 Views
Actually, you don't need the comma in your first sentence. Rebekah - 23/04/2010 08:37:42 AM 428 Views
Except to do the opposite of what he intended it snoopcester - 23/04/2010 11:15:20 AM 421 Views
Mmm, yes he does. Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 03:38:06 PM 415 Views
Depends on the independent clauses. Rebekah - 23/04/2010 04:58:27 PM 410 Views
Not in American English, it doesn't. Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 05:13:15 PM 440 Views
American English is crazy, yo. Rebekah - 23/04/2010 05:51:44 PM 409 Views
LOL Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 05:54:12 PM 392 Views
I agree with you. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/05/2010 03:08:20 AM 371 Views
I actually like the "that" but I'm not Bekah. Joel - 23/04/2010 03:01:37 PM 386 Views
Depending on the inflection used... Kaldric - 23/04/2010 03:26:26 PM 398 Views
Fair point; so is knowing to whom you speak. Joel - 23/04/2010 04:04:30 PM 388 Views
except that is an improper use of a semicolon. LadyLorraine - 23/04/2010 04:24:00 PM 384 Views
If a comma is appropriate in the original supposition, then the semicolon is necessary here. Burr - 23/04/2010 11:24:20 PM 383 Views
but LadyLorraine - 24/04/2010 03:03:22 AM 368 Views
I believe it's treated like one. The comma takes the place of the verb. *NM* Burr - 24/04/2010 03:23:38 PM 353 Views
Less words=more cumbersome now? Joel - 26/04/2010 07:37:41 AM 417 Views
Re: Fair point; so is knowing to whom you speak. Kaldric - 23/04/2010 06:33:58 PM 410 Views
Your pro-elf anti-hobgoblin prejudice has been obvious for some time, Marge. Joel - 28/04/2010 02:41:41 AM 362 Views
Hobgoblins killed my elf friend. Kaldric - 28/04/2010 01:40:22 PM 382 Views
Jesus built my hotrod. Joel - 04/05/2010 05:38:02 PM 407 Views
I think my friend was perfectly justified... Kaldric - 04/05/2010 06:40:05 PM 420 Views
So the truth comes out: Nothing more than interspecies homophobia. Joel - 04/05/2010 06:57:56 PM 427 Views
Dude. You know sisters are off limits. Kaldric - 05/05/2010 01:22:49 PM 402 Views
So, what, they're supposed to die old maids? Joel - 06/05/2010 02:57:46 PM 392 Views
Of course not. Kaldric - 07/05/2010 02:07:36 PM 428 Views
Apologies for the delay. Joel - 18/10/2011 02:48:00 PM 343 Views
You have GOT to be kidding *NM* ironclad - 18/10/2011 02:57:19 PM 321 Views
Nope. Joel - 18/10/2011 03:12:00 PM 341 Views
Necromancy is generally frowned upon. Kaldric - 18/10/2011 03:00:05 PM 432 Views
I was unaware of your response until yesterday, and wanted to acknowledge it. Joel - 18/10/2011 03:14:12 PM 327 Views
I'm no expert in message board etiquette... Kaldric - 18/10/2011 03:57:03 PM 495 Views
I try to err on the side of caution. Joel - 18/10/2011 05:07:47 PM 306 Views
Dude, WTF! This thread is like a year and a half old Isaac - 18/10/2011 08:58:14 PM 326 Views
Ah, I should have done that. Joel - 18/10/2011 10:45:09 PM 332 Views
Re: Ah, I should have done that. Isaac - 18/10/2011 10:47:13 PM 342 Views
No need for commas in either of the lats 3 examples. *NM* Aeryn - 23/04/2010 03:02:38 PM 377 Views
You have Latvian lats? It's a sort of worthless currency for trading purposes. *NM* Tom - 23/04/2010 04:46:07 PM 387 Views
maybe she's a collector? *NM* LadyLorraine - 23/04/2010 05:24:51 PM 387 Views
Re: I cast Summon Grammar Nazi. Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 03:45:31 PM 418 Views
I tap three mana and cast Cancel. *NM* Mats Gambling Buddy - 23/04/2010 05:26:17 PM 381 Views
It won't work, the only way to banish the Grammar Nazi is with Text Messages Isaac - 23/04/2010 11:41:51 PM 414 Views
You get...300 exposition points, a scroll of open/close quotes, and a direct object. *NM* Burr - 24/04/2010 02:32:48 AM 376 Views
you people are sick. LadyLorraine - 24/04/2010 03:04:40 AM 399 Views
Who cast Summon Nekro? jh - 24/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 358 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 29/04/2010 07:00:00 PM 319 Views
You have successfully summoned People Making Fun of You. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/05/2010 03:09:52 AM 338 Views
Apparently someone also cast Necromancy (Resurrect Deceased Thread). *NM* Tim - 18/10/2011 07:30:02 PM 325 Views
I blame my recent return to Baldur's Gate via Tutu. Joel - 18/10/2011 10:46:46 PM 302 Views
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