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I actually like the "that" but I'm not Bekah. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 03:01:37 PM
Suppose you have two independent clauses conjoined: "I like owlbears, and you like hobgoblins." The comma is necessary, of course.

But suppose the sentence were more like this: "Suppose I like owlbears(,) and you like hobgoblins."

Or this: "Suppose that I like owlbears(,) and you like hobgoblins."

Or this: "Suppose that I like owlbears(,) and that you like hobgoblins."

How would you evaluate the use or lack of a comma in those three sentences?

But not the last example; it's too cumbersome for my taste. The way I'd like to believe I'd say it (but probably wouldn't) would be "Suppose that I like owlbears and you, hobgoblins. " Just to add to the comma confusion. When do we get to semicolons, by the way? Those are the coolest. *nods*
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I cast Summon Grammar Nazi. Burr - 23/04/2010 02:24:27 AM 1576 Views
I don't actually KNOW LadyLorraine - 23/04/2010 02:46:24 AM 464 Views
She doesn't know; I didn't care Larry - 23/04/2010 03:22:42 AM 483 Views
I think the first 2 are OK either way, but the third is wrong (essential clause). *NM* BlackAdder - 23/04/2010 03:44:10 AM 409 Views
I like owlbears and you, like hobgoblins. Birdeye - 23/04/2010 03:59:31 AM 520 Views
I imagine someone speaking in a Tonto voice, with the sentence structured like that. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/05/2010 03:07:39 AM 405 Views
How the heck did I read Summer Glau here? ironclad - 23/04/2010 07:57:06 AM 443 Views
Actually, you don't need the comma in your first sentence. Rebekah - 23/04/2010 08:37:42 AM 462 Views
Except to do the opposite of what he intended it snoopcester - 23/04/2010 11:15:20 AM 462 Views
Mmm, yes he does. Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 03:38:06 PM 452 Views
Depends on the independent clauses. Rebekah - 23/04/2010 04:58:27 PM 449 Views
Not in American English, it doesn't. Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 05:13:15 PM 486 Views
American English is crazy, yo. Rebekah - 23/04/2010 05:51:44 PM 448 Views
LOL Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 05:54:12 PM 438 Views
I agree with you. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/05/2010 03:08:20 AM 409 Views
I actually like the "that" but I'm not Bekah. Joel - 23/04/2010 03:01:37 PM 423 Views
Depending on the inflection used... Kaldric - 23/04/2010 03:26:26 PM 440 Views
Fair point; so is knowing to whom you speak. Joel - 23/04/2010 04:04:30 PM 422 Views
except that is an improper use of a semicolon. LadyLorraine - 23/04/2010 04:24:00 PM 420 Views
If a comma is appropriate in the original supposition, then the semicolon is necessary here. Burr - 23/04/2010 11:24:20 PM 422 Views
but LadyLorraine - 24/04/2010 03:03:22 AM 410 Views
I believe it's treated like one. The comma takes the place of the verb. *NM* Burr - 24/04/2010 03:23:38 PM 388 Views
Less words=more cumbersome now? Joel - 26/04/2010 07:37:41 AM 452 Views
Re: Fair point; so is knowing to whom you speak. Kaldric - 23/04/2010 06:33:58 PM 445 Views
Your pro-elf anti-hobgoblin prejudice has been obvious for some time, Marge. Joel - 28/04/2010 02:41:41 AM 409 Views
Hobgoblins killed my elf friend. Kaldric - 28/04/2010 01:40:22 PM 422 Views
Jesus built my hotrod. Joel - 04/05/2010 05:38:02 PM 446 Views
I think my friend was perfectly justified... Kaldric - 04/05/2010 06:40:05 PM 460 Views
So the truth comes out: Nothing more than interspecies homophobia. Joel - 04/05/2010 06:57:56 PM 465 Views
Dude. You know sisters are off limits. Kaldric - 05/05/2010 01:22:49 PM 437 Views
So, what, they're supposed to die old maids? Joel - 06/05/2010 02:57:46 PM 428 Views
Of course not. Kaldric - 07/05/2010 02:07:36 PM 465 Views
Apologies for the delay. Joel - 18/10/2011 02:48:00 PM 377 Views
You have GOT to be kidding *NM* ironclad - 18/10/2011 02:57:19 PM 360 Views
Nope. Joel - 18/10/2011 03:12:00 PM 376 Views
Necromancy is generally frowned upon. Kaldric - 18/10/2011 03:00:05 PM 483 Views
I was unaware of your response until yesterday, and wanted to acknowledge it. Joel - 18/10/2011 03:14:12 PM 363 Views
I'm no expert in message board etiquette... Kaldric - 18/10/2011 03:57:03 PM 546 Views
I try to err on the side of caution. Joel - 18/10/2011 05:07:47 PM 339 Views
Dude, WTF! This thread is like a year and a half old Isaac - 18/10/2011 08:58:14 PM 369 Views
Ah, I should have done that. Joel - 18/10/2011 10:45:09 PM 368 Views
Re: Ah, I should have done that. Isaac - 18/10/2011 10:47:13 PM 384 Views
No need for commas in either of the lats 3 examples. *NM* Aeryn - 23/04/2010 03:02:38 PM 421 Views
You have Latvian lats? It's a sort of worthless currency for trading purposes. *NM* Tom - 23/04/2010 04:46:07 PM 430 Views
maybe she's a collector? *NM* LadyLorraine - 23/04/2010 05:24:51 PM 428 Views
Re: I cast Summon Grammar Nazi. Sareitha Sedai - 23/04/2010 03:45:31 PM 459 Views
I tap three mana and cast Cancel. *NM* Mats Gambling Buddy - 23/04/2010 05:26:17 PM 421 Views
It won't work, the only way to banish the Grammar Nazi is with Text Messages Isaac - 23/04/2010 11:41:51 PM 447 Views
You get...300 exposition points, a scroll of open/close quotes, and a direct object. *NM* Burr - 24/04/2010 02:32:48 AM 424 Views
you people are sick. LadyLorraine - 24/04/2010 03:04:40 AM 435 Views
Who cast Summon Nekro? jh - 24/04/2010 04:14:33 PM 403 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 29/04/2010 07:00:00 PM 358 Views
You have successfully summoned People Making Fun of You. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 06/05/2010 03:09:52 AM 376 Views
Apparently someone also cast Necromancy (Resurrect Deceased Thread). *NM* Tim - 18/10/2011 07:30:02 PM 362 Views
I blame my recent return to Baldur's Gate via Tutu. Joel - 18/10/2011 10:46:46 PM 338 Views
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