Anything that forces people to carry ID just for being there is wrong.
is how many comments like this one there are, focusing on the ID part. In Belgium, and surely in other countries that have ID cards, it is indeed in principle compulsory to have said ID card with you. Obviously agents won't randomly stop you on the street and demand to see it, but if you get into any kind of situation where you'd need it - like traffic violations - and you don't have it, I seem to recall there's a fine for that. Not that being illegal has much to do with that, or that illegal people in such a situation would get in much more trouble than citizens, but like I said, it surprises me how much people are complaining about the "oh no, you have to carry ID!" part, as if that's something heinous by itself. And that that gets more attention than, say, the ridiculous thing about allowing citizens to sue their local authorities for not cracking down hard enough on illegals.
As LadyLorraine mentioned, there is currently no need for US citizens to carry proof of their citizenship (for most, their only proof would be their birth certificate). This law makes it a requirement for ANYONE to show proof of being in the country legally. Who is going to carry around their birth certificate?
I don't know how familiar you are with immigration law, but it can be pretty complex. I don't trust an average LEO to understand the ins and outs of immigration law since that is not what they are there to do anyway.
The Arizona immigration bill thingy
- 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM
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what do you expect from one of the last states to accept MLK day?
- 26/04/2010 01:19:03 AM
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Yes, well, at least you are in the 27% of Americans that have a Passport.
- 26/04/2010 01:48:44 AM
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It will only take a few times getting their asses sued off for detaining U.S. citizens against...
- 26/04/2010 05:54:49 AM
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Yeah, I can't wait 'til a Latino state representative is arrested for looking illegal.
- 26/04/2010 07:26:13 AM
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or even better, a celebrity. I choose Antonia Banderas (when he has the funky beard hobo look) *NM*
- 26/04/2010 12:32:18 PM
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Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border
- 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM
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Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation.
- 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM
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Some thoughts
- 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM
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It's not just outrageous; it's plain stupid. The latter is almost as offensive as the former.
- 26/04/2010 07:30:30 AM
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Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something
- 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM
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What I find interesting about all this...
- 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM
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It is interesting to see how it contrasts with your take on it, being from a country with them
- 26/04/2010 02:11:18 PM
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Re: What I find interesting about all this...
- 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM
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Perhaps I'm wrong, but...
- 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM
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I don't know about the green cards
- 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM
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That last point doesn't really make any sense.
- 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM
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my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different.
- 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass
- 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM
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The law will most likely not be overturned.
- 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM*
- 26/04/2010 03:20:45 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:53:32 PM
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The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM*
- 26/04/2010 08:33:04 PM
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The federal government will be collective ass but it may help to get the law off their overturned *NM*
- 27/04/2010 05:33:42 AM
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Their collective ass will be overturned but it may help to get the law off the federal government *NM*
- 27/04/2010 09:18:02 AM
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It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues.
- 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM
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the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo
- 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM
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I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes.
- 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM
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*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue
- 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM
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There is a difference between assimilating and being assimilated
- 27/04/2010 04:09:19 PM
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the differences really are not that minor
- 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM
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hmm, see
- 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM
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I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors
- 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM
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When I say relatively minor, it's because I'm thinking of those *other* assimilation problems here
- 28/04/2010 10:30:04 PM
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It should rattle anyone who lives in a democracy and who likes their way of life
- 28/04/2010 11:15:18 PM
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More power to the government! and We took that land fair and square! *NM*
- 26/04/2010 04:43:15 PM
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I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute
- 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM
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Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute
- 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM
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Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected?
- 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM
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That's funny...
- 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM
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echo chamber much?
- 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM
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there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights.
- 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM
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Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights.
- 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM
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Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona.
- 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM
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activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM*
- 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM
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It will cost money
- 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM
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but all of that ignores the long term savings
- 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM
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it's less a matter of american tourism
- 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM
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if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona
- 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM
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I don't see any real long term savings coming from this.
- 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM
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70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic
- 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM
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real science?
- 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM
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I linked to it further up the thread and you responded
- 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM
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*NM*