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Those incidents are horrible LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM
but this law won't stop those from happening. Unless police men are going to start stopping every Hispanic-looking person they come across (which they can't, as that would be racial profiling), then it is inevitable that they will be stopping mostly perfectly legal aliens and citizens far more often than they will be stopping violent drug cartel members who are already trying to avoid notice and have the financial backing to produce false IDs.

And in anycase, where did you see me "blaming the victims"? At no point did I speak about the small minority of people who've suffered personal damage from illegal aliens.
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The Arizona immigration bill thingy - 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM 2266 Views
what do you expect from one of the last states to accept MLK day? - 26/04/2010 01:19:03 AM 1347 Views
Yes, well, at least you are in the 27% of Americans that have a Passport. - 26/04/2010 01:48:44 AM 1139 Views
Such a wrongheaded law. - 26/04/2010 02:25:10 AM 1035 Views
A lot of stuff makes me go "whuh?" legally. - 26/04/2010 03:38:12 AM 912 Views
Sounds like apartheid in SA... - 26/04/2010 02:36:52 AM 1077 Views
As bad as the law is, that's an ignorant statement. *NM* - 26/04/2010 02:38:16 AM 510 Views
Re: Sounds like apartheid in SA... - 26/04/2010 05:13:17 AM 1188 Views
It shows that Arizona is already lost - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM 1069 Views
Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border - 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM 1020 Views
Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation. - 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM 1029 Views
I do. - 26/04/2010 07:11:10 AM 1202 Views
Re: I do. - 26/04/2010 07:45:21 AM 1041 Views
Yeah, I saw an interview with a former U.S. Drug Czar - 26/04/2010 06:35:10 PM 1008 Views
Okay, I grew up in Arizona. - 26/04/2010 12:41:21 PM 1227 Views
Re: Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border - 26/04/2010 03:58:37 PM 1095 Views
looks like somebody doesn't quite get the point - 29/04/2010 06:18:58 AM 1687 Views
Some thoughts - 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM 1150 Views
I wouldn't worry to much laws like that - 26/04/2010 03:03:16 PM 1013 Views
patriot act gives that to any federal law enforcement officer - 29/04/2010 06:13:38 AM 1115 Views
Re: Some thoughts - 26/04/2010 04:04:55 PM 1004 Views
Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something - 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM 1011 Views
What I find interesting about all this... - 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM 1121 Views
well you see, that IS part of the problem - 26/04/2010 01:13:19 PM 1104 Views
Re: What I find interesting about all this... - 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM 1086 Views
Perhaps I'm wrong, but... - 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM 1002 Views
I don't know about the green cards - 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM 1034 Views
That last point doesn't really make any sense. - 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM 1029 Views
my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM 970 Views
Hey, I think it's an appalling law. - 27/04/2010 02:24:30 PM 1118 Views
Re: Perhaps I'm wrong, but... - 26/04/2010 03:41:47 PM 945 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass - 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM 1075 Views
The law will most likely not be overturned. - 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM 1014 Views
I meant by the courts - 27/04/2010 03:49:11 PM 927 Views
ah well. that'd be nice, then. *NM* - 27/04/2010 05:14:31 PM 470 Views
It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues. - 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM 1005 Views
the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo - 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM 1025 Views
I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes. - 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM 1044 Views
*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue - 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM 972 Views
I agree with you - 26/04/2010 05:26:47 PM 996 Views
that is also true - 26/04/2010 05:44:40 PM 943 Views
There is a difference between assimilating and being assimilated - 27/04/2010 04:09:19 PM 1007 Views
the differences really are not that minor - 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM 1070 Views
hmm, see - 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM 921 Views
I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors - 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM 945 Views
mmmm Tamale. - 28/04/2010 08:53:13 PM 981 Views
a minor point.... - 29/04/2010 06:30:22 AM 1039 Views
I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute - 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM 1238 Views
Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute - 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM 1365 Views
you are correct - 29/04/2010 06:39:29 AM 1384 Views
Uhm, how is that "worst" case scenario? - 27/04/2010 01:28:28 PM 1003 Views
Worst reasonable case scenario - 28/04/2010 06:48:29 PM 969 Views
Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected? - 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM 1136 Views
That's funny... - 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM 1326 Views
echo chamber much? - 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM 1083 Views
there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. - 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM 946 Views
Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM 1002 Views
Those incidents are horrible - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM 979 Views
Re: That's funny... - 28/04/2010 12:30:41 PM 1022 Views
And this law will not give them what they want - 28/04/2010 01:12:50 PM 1020 Views
Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona. - 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 1050 Views
now that's just crazy talk. - 27/04/2010 01:58:42 AM 964 Views
activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM* - 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM 433 Views
It will cost money - 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM 1012 Views
but all of that ignores the long term savings - 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM 954 Views
it's less a matter of american tourism - 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM 1005 Views
if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona - 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM 1064 Views
I will admit - 28/04/2010 07:01:55 PM 985 Views
there have always been bad cops and there always will be - 28/04/2010 08:53:50 PM 946 Views
I don't see any real long term savings coming from this. - 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM 1063 Views
70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1202 Views
real science? - 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM 990 Views
I linked to it further up the thread and you responded - 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM 980 Views
ah, I think I missed it for some reason - 29/04/2010 12:18:13 AM 1032 Views
who has time to read all of this crap *NM* - 29/04/2010 04:26:11 AM 421 Views
I'm familiar with the Rasmussen poll - 28/04/2010 11:31:30 PM 1292 Views
Here's Judge Napolitano's response to this - 27/04/2010 02:19:49 PM 991 Views

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