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Maybe not. Werthead Send a noteboard - 11/05/2010 08:41:24 PM
"I can't believe how much they've offered us. The Tories have basically rubbed out their manifesto and inserted ours. We'll have to cope for four or five years with our flesh creeping, but still."

Still, unless they actually have done that and a deal is done I think it might be a very, very damaged Lib Dem party coming out of this.


And surely the Tories can't renege on their policy of starting to make cuts this year already, either.


The LibDems have agreed in principle to cutting this year already. In fact, Labour's refusal to consider cutting this year is one of the issues which torpedoed the LibDem-Labour discussions. The cabinet offer is also rumoured to be Vince Cable as Business Secretary supporting George Osborne as Chancellor, which would actually be very popular in the city (who are nervous about Osborne's lack of experience, his chumminess with Mandelson and a slightly dodgy expenses account and like the much more experienced and wily Cable's financial acumen).

The remaining point is PR. The Tories have offered a referendum on AV (the Alternate Vote system) rather than full PR, which is pretty weak. But it is a notable improvement over FPTP for the smaller parties, and the LibDems may be able to accept it as a compromise, although it will be a bitter pill to swallow. But maybe doable in return for the tax reforms and a say in the economic policy.
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Defence is now updated to Fox according to Sky - 11/05/2010 10:54:58 PM 649 Views
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*Raises hand* - 11/05/2010 10:00:22 PM 726 Views
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Re: Tories = Conservatives - 11/05/2010 10:17:33 PM 743 Views
Ick. - 11/05/2010 10:15:13 PM 638 Views
When will you realise that I am always right? - 12/05/2010 02:12:04 AM 745 Views
Re: When will you realise that I am always right? - 12/05/2010 09:14:07 AM 622 Views
How utterly delightful. - 11/05/2010 10:17:15 PM 724 Views
it does make for fine entertainment *NM* - 12/05/2010 04:39:50 AM 419 Views
Indeed it does *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:34:45 PM 308 Views
Re: How utterly delightful. - 13/05/2010 12:03:08 PM 605 Views
If you want to smile some more, - 13/05/2010 07:10:46 PM 645 Views
hes cute. *NM* - 12/05/2010 12:11:58 AM 498 Views
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Indeed - 12/05/2010 01:02:01 AM 723 Views
What would you have them do? - 12/05/2010 09:32:57 AM 847 Views
What about Northern Ireland? For the love of God, what about Northern Ireland?!?!?! *NM* - 12/05/2010 05:00:37 AM 312 Views
What about it? Their parties won't be in the government. - 12/05/2010 10:27:50 AM 627 Views
Well some very interesting things happened - 12/05/2010 11:45:36 AM 744 Views
That they did, but it's still largely symbolic. - 12/05/2010 01:03:31 PM 805 Views
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I think what he means is that saying "Britain" instead of "the UK" technically excludes NI. *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:06:56 PM 293 Views
Oh, right. Good point, then. *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:17:51 PM 294 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 12/05/2010 08:07:06 PM 282 Views
Nick Clegg is the first ever Deputy PM without an actual ministerial role. - 12/05/2010 01:22:49 PM 781 Views
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Maybe. - 12/05/2010 01:47:16 PM 710 Views
It would make a snappy title - 12/05/2010 02:04:55 PM 597 Views
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