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Maybe not. Werthead Send a noteboard - 11/05/2010 08:41:24 PM
"I can't believe how much they've offered us. The Tories have basically rubbed out their manifesto and inserted ours. We'll have to cope for four or five years with our flesh creeping, but still."

Still, unless they actually have done that and a deal is done I think it might be a very, very damaged Lib Dem party coming out of this.


And surely the Tories can't renege on their policy of starting to make cuts this year already, either.


The LibDems have agreed in principle to cutting this year already. In fact, Labour's refusal to consider cutting this year is one of the issues which torpedoed the LibDem-Labour discussions. The cabinet offer is also rumoured to be Vince Cable as Business Secretary supporting George Osborne as Chancellor, which would actually be very popular in the city (who are nervous about Osborne's lack of experience, his chumminess with Mandelson and a slightly dodgy expenses account and like the much more experienced and wily Cable's financial acumen).

The remaining point is PR. The Tories have offered a referendum on AV (the Alternate Vote system) rather than full PR, which is pretty weak. But it is a notable improvement over FPTP for the smaller parties, and the LibDems may be able to accept it as a compromise, although it will be a bitter pill to swallow. But maybe doable in return for the tax reforms and a say in the economic policy.
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Defence is now updated to Fox according to Sky - 11/05/2010 10:54:58 PM 614 Views
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They're back to talking about Gove as Home Secretary. - 12/05/2010 12:01:44 AM 686 Views
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*Raises hand* - 11/05/2010 10:00:22 PM 690 Views
Tories = Conservatives - 11/05/2010 10:06:35 PM 698 Views
Re: Tories = Conservatives - 11/05/2010 10:17:33 PM 706 Views
Ick. - 11/05/2010 10:15:13 PM 604 Views
When will you realise that I am always right? - 12/05/2010 02:12:04 AM 708 Views
Re: When will you realise that I am always right? - 12/05/2010 09:14:07 AM 583 Views
How utterly delightful. - 11/05/2010 10:17:15 PM 689 Views
it does make for fine entertainment *NM* - 12/05/2010 04:39:50 AM 406 Views
Indeed it does *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:34:45 PM 295 Views
Re: How utterly delightful. - 13/05/2010 12:03:08 PM 564 Views
If you want to smile some more, - 13/05/2010 07:10:46 PM 612 Views
hes cute. *NM* - 12/05/2010 12:11:58 AM 484 Views
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No mention of it so far. - 12/05/2010 12:42:10 AM 923 Views
Indeed - 12/05/2010 01:02:01 AM 687 Views
What would you have them do? - 12/05/2010 09:32:57 AM 809 Views
What about Northern Ireland? For the love of God, what about Northern Ireland?!?!?! *NM* - 12/05/2010 05:00:37 AM 296 Views
What about it? Their parties won't be in the government. - 12/05/2010 10:27:50 AM 589 Views
Well some very interesting things happened - 12/05/2010 11:45:36 AM 708 Views
That they did, but it's still largely symbolic. - 12/05/2010 01:03:31 PM 770 Views
Oh it's important to him - 12/05/2010 03:00:54 PM 661 Views
I think what he means is that saying "Britain" instead of "the UK" technically excludes NI. *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:06:56 PM 279 Views
Oh, right. Good point, then. *NM* - 12/05/2010 01:17:51 PM 280 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 12/05/2010 08:07:06 PM 269 Views
Nick Clegg is the first ever Deputy PM without an actual ministerial role. - 12/05/2010 01:22:49 PM 744 Views
Re: Nick Clegg is the first ever Deputy PM without an actual ministerial role. Yet - 12/05/2010 01:41:12 PM 645 Views
Maybe. - 12/05/2010 01:47:16 PM 676 Views
It would make a snappy title - 12/05/2010 02:04:55 PM 562 Views
Well, he's now Lord President of the Council. - 12/05/2010 08:05:33 PM 760 Views

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