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Exactly. Joel Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM
Or well, yeah.

Korean War wasn't a real "war" in that war wasn't properly "declared."

But it never stopped, either. There was no peace treaty. Just a ceasefire, which has never been lifted.

And I still don't think North Korea does jack without Chinese permission; they're far too dependent on Chinas support to just thumb their nose at them. No, I think North Korea is what it's always been: A catspaw for China to use against Japan and the US without having to get their hands dirty (publicly. ) If North Korea starts flinging nukes around or taking potshots at neighboring countrys shipping China can tut tut and wring their hands with impunity, secure in the knowledge that even if the US or someone else stirs itself in recognition of the fact the situation will only deteriorate otherwise, any reprisal will be against North Korea alone.

Meanwhile, it remains insane to allow North Korea to hold a gun to our heads on Chinas behalf simply because they might use it if we try to stop them. Didn't we already play this game in the '30s? Sooner or later a confrontation is coming, however distasteful we may find that; all that changes by waiting is the price of ending it in our favor grows, possibly to the point where a favorable ending is no longer possible.
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Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war? - 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM 1078 Views
I was wondering when something would be posted about this - 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM 780 Views
haha. I love that mental image - 24/05/2010 02:51:53 PM 690 Views
But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore? - 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM 716 Views
that might well be a good point - 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM 687 Views
Very interesting point. That is a wild card. *NM* - 24/05/2010 03:27:53 PM 244 Views
The explaination I have heard... - 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM 719 Views
I don't know... - 24/05/2010 09:49:25 PM 639 Views
No, because China doesn't want us in the region. - 25/05/2010 12:20:47 AM 677 Views
Um, wasn't that pretty much always understood? - 25/05/2010 12:08:12 AM 634 Views
yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation - 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM 688 Views
If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it. - 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM 707 Views
mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest. - 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM 702 Views
Wikipedia is your friend. - 24/05/2010 03:08:33 PM 863 Views
ah mk. Thanks!! - 24/05/2010 04:39:49 PM 649 Views
Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything. - 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM 659 Views
Korea is directly in our sphere of influence - 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 610 Views
I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense. - 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM 760 Views
In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang. - 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM 587 Views
Oh yuck - there are far better ways. - 24/05/2010 06:01:44 PM 628 Views
yah... - 24/05/2010 06:27:37 PM 663 Views
Re: yah... - 24/05/2010 06:34:13 PM 648 Views
That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma. - 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 612 Views
I don't think the US could, if China decided to get involved - 24/05/2010 08:45:23 PM 594 Views
A part of me says just get it over with - 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM 595 Views
I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing. - 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM 751 Views
I agree - 24/05/2010 04:17:19 PM 765 Views
Pretty much agree with all of that. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:17:27 PM 274 Views
I'm trying not to. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM 245 Views
This. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:28:20 PM 270 Views
I understand - 24/05/2010 06:00:09 PM 604 Views
Yes - 24/05/2010 06:05:25 PM 614 Views
i agree - 24/05/2010 06:28:37 PM 634 Views
This has disaster written all over it *NM* - 24/05/2010 08:39:37 PM 259 Views
Technically, weren't we always? - 24/05/2010 08:51:29 PM 611 Views
Exactly. - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM 664 Views
I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM* - 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM 257 Views
No one wants to resume the Korean War. - 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM 720 Views
China does. - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM 663 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM 690 Views
Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes. - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM 685 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM 672 Views
North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding? - 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM 642 Views
The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis. - 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM 662 Views
You are missing the main point. - 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM 701 Views
I'm not saying it's nothing new. - 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM 680 Views
Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger. - 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM 617 Views
Yes, that is the danger. - 26/05/2010 09:04:36 PM 761 Views
Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before. - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM 646 Views

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