Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes.
Joel Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM
I know you don't hold China in high esteem, and that's understandable. But you're not thinking rationally. The fact is this, China does not want a war on the Korean peninsula.
They have absolutely nothing to gain from that, and everything to lose. Economically it's not in their interest, their trade with South Korea now approaches approximately $200bn per year. Strategically a collapse of the North Korean regime would unleash a flood of refugees across the Chinese border, a phenomenon China experienced in the mid-1990s when tens of thousands of North Koreans, if not more, fled widespread famine in their homeland. But it would be in a much more massive scale. The ensuing chaos could bring American intervention in China's backyard and prospectively, a reunited, democratic, pro-western Korea - how is that prospect any benefit to China?
They have absolutely nothing to gain from that, and everything to lose. Economically it's not in their interest, their trade with South Korea now approaches approximately $200bn per year. Strategically a collapse of the North Korean regime would unleash a flood of refugees across the Chinese border, a phenomenon China experienced in the mid-1990s when tens of thousands of North Koreans, if not more, fled widespread famine in their homeland. But it would be in a much more massive scale. The ensuing chaos could bring American intervention in China's backyard and prospectively, a reunited, democratic, pro-western Korea - how is that prospect any benefit to China?
But unless we completely capitulate open war is the form that will eventually take. I'm sure China would much prefer our capitulation, but that would just be declaring open season on America for any and all competitors. Sooner or later (hopefully the former) the powers that be will realize that. Maybe after we lose a few more Navy aircraft and their top secret technologies, while we beg them to release the crews.
EDIT: Oh, and if they don't want a war on the peninsula all they have to do is to have their North Korean stooges sign a peace treaty ending the Korean Conflict formalizing the status quo, but since they've had over half a century, I don't think it likely any time soon; it's certainly not consistent with a "One Korea" policy (hmmm, that phrase sounds oddly familiar.... )
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This message last edited by Joel on 25/05/2010 at 01:17:11 AM
Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war?
- 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM
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I was wondering when something would be posted about this
- 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM
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- 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM
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But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore?
- 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM
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that might well be a good point
- 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM
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The explaination I have heard...
- 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM
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Kim made one of his rare trips outside of North Korea about two weeks ago.
- 26/05/2010 07:49:18 AM
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yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation
- 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM
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If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it.
- 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM
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mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest.
- 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM
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Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything.
- 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM
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Korea is directly in our sphere of influence
- 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM
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I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense.
- 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM
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In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang.
- 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM
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- 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM
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That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma.
- 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM
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A part of me says just get it over with
- 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM
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I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing.
- 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM
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I'm trying not to. *NM*
- 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM
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I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM*
- 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM
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No one wants to resume the Korean War.
- 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM
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China does.
- 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM
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No, they don't
- 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM
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Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes.
- 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM
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No, they don't
- 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM
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I'm saying the Cold War isn't over, since it was never about capitalism vs. communism to begin.
- 25/05/2010 01:41:28 AM
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North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding?
- 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM
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The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis.
- 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM
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You are missing the main point.
- 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM
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I'm not saying it's nothing new.
- 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM
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Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger.
- 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM
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Yes, I've been watching with morbid curiosity and a little sick feeling in my stomach.
- 25/05/2010 02:47:53 AM
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