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The wisest thing to do, in my mind, is to force the issue now. Tom Send a noteboard - 25/05/2010 07:49:56 PM
We need to let China know that the issue needs to be resolved now to avoid war. We should start with voluntary evacuations of old people and young children from Seoul and, if the situation does not get resolved, mandatory evacuations of all non-workers, followed by a plan of immediate evacuation of everyone else if needed. THAT would get peoples' attention in Beijing (along with the movement of a few extra carriers and putting all US troops in Japan on high alert).

We then let China know that we find three options acceptable:

(a) the regime signs a peace treaty, unilaterally dismantles its nuclear stockpile and finds some way of reforming itself

(b) China takes over direct control of North Korea and helps to reform its economy, with any Chinese troops leaving at the same time as US troops leave South Korea to permit the North to be absorbed by the South

OR

(c) we impose a complete blockade on North Korea and let the regime collapse on its own or, if need be, we destroy the regime militarily
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 25/05/2010 at 07:51:09 PM
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Oh, by the way...has anyone noticed how close the Korean peninsula is to war? - 24/05/2010 02:04:12 PM 1113 Views
I was wondering when something would be posted about this - 24/05/2010 02:49:54 PM 802 Views
haha. I love that mental image - 24/05/2010 02:51:53 PM 725 Views
But does North Korea really listen to China that much anymore? - 24/05/2010 02:55:04 PM 756 Views
that might well be a good point - 24/05/2010 03:20:32 PM 720 Views
Very interesting point. That is a wild card. *NM* - 24/05/2010 03:27:53 PM 256 Views
The explaination I have heard... - 24/05/2010 09:05:40 PM 756 Views
I don't know... - 24/05/2010 09:49:25 PM 669 Views
No, because China doesn't want us in the region. - 25/05/2010 12:20:47 AM 714 Views
Um, wasn't that pretty much always understood? - 25/05/2010 12:08:12 AM 669 Views
yah, it doesn't look to be a good situation - 24/05/2010 02:50:08 PM 720 Views
If there were a war with North Korea the US has the resources to deal with it. - 24/05/2010 02:56:39 PM 745 Views
mm. well I don't much like that either, to be honest. - 24/05/2010 03:00:29 PM 733 Views
Wikipedia is your friend. - 24/05/2010 03:08:33 PM 903 Views
ah mk. Thanks!! - 24/05/2010 04:39:49 PM 683 Views
Still scary and you know that using those would escalate everything. - 24/05/2010 03:26:12 PM 689 Views
Korea is directly in our sphere of influence - 24/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 645 Views
I meant "we" in a personal sense, not a national sense. - 24/05/2010 05:36:40 PM 793 Views
In a personal sense, we could hijack a nuclear silo and shoot an ICBM at Pyongyang. - 24/05/2010 05:50:52 PM 618 Views
Oh yuck - there are far better ways. - 24/05/2010 06:01:44 PM 665 Views
yah... - 24/05/2010 06:27:37 PM 701 Views
Re: yah... - 24/05/2010 06:34:13 PM 681 Views
That would totally blow my cover of being a nerdy little grandma. - 24/05/2010 09:37:28 PM 643 Views
I don't think the US could, if China decided to get involved - 24/05/2010 08:45:23 PM 626 Views
A part of me says just get it over with - 24/05/2010 03:21:06 PM 631 Views
I agree that if war is inevitable, it is much better to start it at a time of our choosing. - 24/05/2010 03:48:36 PM 781 Views
I agree - 24/05/2010 04:17:19 PM 798 Views
Pretty much agree with all of that. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:17:27 PM 286 Views
I'm trying not to. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:25:06 PM 258 Views
This. *NM* - 24/05/2010 05:28:20 PM 285 Views
I understand - 24/05/2010 06:00:09 PM 634 Views
Yes - 24/05/2010 06:05:25 PM 646 Views
i agree - 24/05/2010 06:28:37 PM 664 Views
This has disaster written all over it *NM* - 24/05/2010 08:39:37 PM 274 Views
Technically, weren't we always? - 24/05/2010 08:51:29 PM 648 Views
Exactly. - 25/05/2010 12:07:32 AM 697 Views
I try to block it out with thought's of a puppet singing "I'm So Ronery". *NM* - 24/05/2010 10:59:23 PM 272 Views
No one wants to resume the Korean War. - 24/05/2010 11:27:12 PM 760 Views
China does. - 25/05/2010 12:29:11 AM 700 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 12:54:49 AM 727 Views
Well, it would be more accurate to say they want a conflict, yes. - 25/05/2010 01:15:23 AM 726 Views
No, they don't - 25/05/2010 01:24:17 AM 708 Views
North Korea is not acting suicidal? Are you kidding? - 25/05/2010 02:41:29 AM 676 Views
The internal political dynamic in North Korea is such that they constantly need a crisis. - 25/05/2010 03:03:59 AM 695 Views
You are missing the main point. - 25/05/2010 03:36:37 AM 739 Views
I'm not saying it's nothing new. - 25/05/2010 03:57:40 AM 713 Views
Your response highlights the ultimate problem: the crisis will have to keep getting bigger. - 25/05/2010 07:44:19 PM 650 Views
Yes, that is the danger. - 26/05/2010 09:04:36 PM 792 Views
Fair enough. I misunderstood your position before. - 26/05/2010 12:31:52 AM 690 Views
Yes, I've been watching with morbid curiosity and a little sick feeling in my stomach. - 25/05/2010 02:47:53 AM 750 Views
The wisest thing to do, in my mind, is to force the issue now. - 25/05/2010 07:49:56 PM 737 Views

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