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Exactly. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 09/09/2009 12:12:52 AM
For one, I don't think wearing a shirt that says "Islam is of the Devil" is wrong or hurtful. From my perspective, it's correct and informative. If Muslims are offended, they should probably lobby their governments to actually step in and stop the killing of Christians, because then I would ahve no reason to wear the shirt.

I am not even catholic but I would find a shirt saying something about priests molesting children as offensive and wrong. I just can't justify tarring and feathering a whole group of people based on the actions of a few. Most priests are good men that have dedicated their lives to serving God and their fellow men. Should the whole church be judged because of the actions of a minority?

The argument that you just made about the "Islam is of the Devil" shirt not being wrong or hurtful but rather correct and informative could easily be made to defend people that wanted to wear anti-catholic shirts. They could say something very similar to what you said to defend their actions. Would that be right? Would it be fair?

I don't buy the argument. Judging and condemning a whole group based on the actions of a minority just doesn't seem right to me. Does it seem right to you? Doesn't seeing it from their perspective make you reconsider your position just a little?
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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Islam is of the Devil Aisha - 06/09/2009 03:30:51 AM 1630 Views
I swear, the levels of crazy are just increasing these days. Craig - 06/09/2009 06:04:19 AM 921 Views
People are stupid. Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 06:25:42 AM 1073 Views
This statement got me: Dragonsoul - 06/09/2009 06:30:16 AM 1268 Views
Re: This statement got me: Aisha - 06/09/2009 07:20:17 AM 909 Views
What you say about those places may be true random thoughts - 06/09/2009 02:16:30 PM 925 Views
Regardless... Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:34:48 AM 870 Views
Re: Regardless... Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:10:18 AM 980 Views
I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:11:13 PM 1000 Views
Re: I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. Kylia Skydancer - 08/09/2009 10:15:55 PM 971 Views
Okay... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:04:29 PM 902 Views
You are free to wear offensive clothing random thoughts - 08/09/2009 08:13:18 PM 954 Views
There is a difference between hatred and truth. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:04:02 PM 892 Views
You do know christans have done that as well don't you? random thoughts - 09/09/2009 06:04:28 PM 962 Views
The difference is... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:16:13 PM 864 Views
really have you actaully read the Qur'an random thoughts - 09/09/2009 06:33:38 PM 935 Views
there are some unsavory passages, and he knows it. nossy - 09/09/2009 06:46:59 PM 930 Views
Acrually No I don't. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 07:52:19 PM 808 Views
Someone should have told Jesus the OT was void random thoughts - 09/09/2009 10:31:39 PM 946 Views
Jesus was the one who voided it. Dragonsoul - 10/09/2009 12:25:18 AM 946 Views
so he was lying when he said he didn't? random thoughts - 10/09/2009 03:27:14 AM 998 Views
Christ never said that. Dragonsoul - 10/09/2009 02:14:53 PM 913 Views
Logicaly, this is a stupid post. snoopcester - 06/09/2009 03:58:43 PM 964 Views
+1 *NM* The Shrike - 06/09/2009 08:56:02 PM 436 Views
+2 *NM* Dannymac - 06/09/2009 10:04:34 PM 403 Views
+3 *NM* Craig - 06/09/2009 10:36:48 PM 422 Views
As an Englishman, why are you even posting in this thread then? *NM* Joker - 07/09/2009 02:49:22 AM 448 Views
Because I can. snoopcester - 07/09/2009 10:15:57 AM 976 Views
So can he. Joker - 07/09/2009 07:54:56 PM 882 Views
Yes nossy - 08/09/2009 05:59:24 AM 915 Views
It means a lot in context to the situation Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:14:50 PM 1009 Views
No, it does not. nossy - 08/09/2009 07:20:49 PM 945 Views
So now you can tell me what I can and can't do with my children? Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 11:31:16 PM 975 Views
I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. nossy - 08/09/2009 11:59:21 PM 924 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:10:19 PM 1000 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. nossy - 09/09/2009 04:27:32 PM 1051 Views
Define "disruptive". Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:19:36 PM 926 Views
No. *NM* nossy - 09/09/2009 06:26:43 PM 451 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 09/09/2009 06:55:22 PM 420 Views
Ooh, look, I'm being baited. nossy - 09/09/2009 07:59:28 PM 892 Views
Then your argument has no merit. *NM* Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 07:52:47 PM 419 Views
you are making no sense snoopcester - 08/09/2009 11:35:12 AM 968 Views
Quite a bit. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:31:59 AM 940 Views
Luke 6:31 *NM* krassos - 07/09/2009 08:41:54 PM 492 Views
That applies to them as well. *NM* Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:08:55 PM 331 Views
The thing I think you are missing... Antigone - 06/09/2009 07:18:45 PM 1023 Views
Wait, what? Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 08:29:14 PM 997 Views
I... kinda have to agree with Ghav, there. Craig - 06/09/2009 10:39:28 PM 974 Views
Yeah, what you said! Antigone - 06/09/2009 11:51:19 PM 1045 Views
don't make me get all vulcan on you. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:13:18 AM 408 Views
Wrong. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:36:49 AM 950 Views
That is why America is different than those countries. Duh. *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2009 07:58:53 PM 617 Views
Because in America Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:35:24 AM 1035 Views
Re: Because in America Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:16:05 AM 876 Views
And... Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:15:49 PM 893 Views
Jesus, you are a real piece of work. Moron. *NM* everynametaken - 07/09/2009 11:52:02 PM 311 Views
I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Tashmere - 08/09/2009 01:40:42 AM 958 Views
Go, Tash, go! Craig - 08/09/2009 05:52:01 AM 915 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:18:00 PM 913 Views
"Their government" is the American government. *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2009 07:36:27 PM 387 Views
That is a concept many people can't seem to grasp *NM* random thoughts - 08/09/2009 08:14:50 PM 396 Views
The elf has a point. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 08/09/2009 10:18:26 PM 451 Views
And yet I don't see CAIR.. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:07:05 PM 872 Views
Why on earth should it? Legolas - 09/09/2009 05:14:30 PM 926 Views
Because... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:25:41 PM 978 Views
Re: Because... Legolas - 09/09/2009 07:06:24 PM 1158 Views
Really? Craig - 08/09/2009 08:02:42 PM 858 Views
Re: Really? everynametaken - 09/09/2009 12:11:36 AM 911 Views
Well it's not about whether it scans right to you. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:06:06 PM 813 Views
Oh, I was just clarifying. Craig - 09/09/2009 06:05:49 PM 860 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Tashmere - 08/09/2009 11:49:48 PM 988 Views
Failed edit. *NM* Tashmere - 08/09/2009 11:50:50 PM 429 Views
Exactly. *NM* everynametaken - 09/09/2009 12:12:52 AM 431 Views
I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note LadyLorraine - 06/09/2009 06:46:58 AM 954 Views
Re: I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note Aisha - 06/09/2009 07:22:59 AM 1093 Views
It didn't infringe on the First Amendment rights of others. Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 07:28:35 AM 936 Views
Er? You misunderstand the law quite a lot there Isaac - 06/09/2009 11:06:04 AM 938 Views
I believe the rest of the Church has done a horrible job explaining... everynametaken - 06/09/2009 08:02:25 PM 932 Views
When will people learn tolerance/=support...? Joel - 06/09/2009 12:30:23 PM 1002 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 06/09/2009 12:50:11 PM 430 Views
The sad thing is ou know it is the parents driving it all random thoughts - 06/09/2009 02:37:08 PM 1063 Views
The parents are disgusting idiots snoopcester - 06/09/2009 03:57:17 PM 954 Views
Fundamentalist nutjobs. Sheesh! *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2009 07:57:09 PM 494 Views
The appropriate punishment... Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:03:25 AM 957 Views
Punishment for what? Isaac - 07/09/2009 09:51:57 AM 964 Views
When did I say anything about a law? Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:48:09 AM 929 Views
Since were talking about the law, not your opinion of right an wrong, it's sort of a default Isaac - 09/09/2009 05:01:08 PM 895 Views
Eh... I wish you were right, but I don't think you are. Ghavrel - 10/09/2009 03:50:18 AM 1012 Views
Morse isn't a bad example Isaac - 10/09/2009 11:23:32 AM 976 Views
Fair enough. I'm just a little overzealous with what I see as infringements on civil liberties. Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 01:14:48 AM 1208 Views
That's the key point so many forget: Joel - 07/09/2009 11:42:12 PM 804 Views
It's not that they forget, they never 'get' to begin with Isaac - 09/09/2009 07:18:09 PM 984 Views
No, that's pretty much it. Ghavrel - 10/09/2009 03:42:25 AM 1040 Views
You're right. Joel - 14/09/2009 11:11:38 AM 1119 Views
If I understand you nossy - 14/09/2009 03:05:39 PM 959 Views
Yes, that was it Isaac - 14/09/2009 04:17:45 PM 1096 Views
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