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Exactly. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 09/09/2009 12:12:52 AM
For one, I don't think wearing a shirt that says "Islam is of the Devil" is wrong or hurtful. From my perspective, it's correct and informative. If Muslims are offended, they should probably lobby their governments to actually step in and stop the killing of Christians, because then I would ahve no reason to wear the shirt.

I am not even catholic but I would find a shirt saying something about priests molesting children as offensive and wrong. I just can't justify tarring and feathering a whole group of people based on the actions of a few. Most priests are good men that have dedicated their lives to serving God and their fellow men. Should the whole church be judged because of the actions of a minority?

The argument that you just made about the "Islam is of the Devil" shirt not being wrong or hurtful but rather correct and informative could easily be made to defend people that wanted to wear anti-catholic shirts. They could say something very similar to what you said to defend their actions. Would that be right? Would it be fair?

I don't buy the argument. Judging and condemning a whole group based on the actions of a minority just doesn't seem right to me. Does it seem right to you? Doesn't seeing it from their perspective make you reconsider your position just a little?
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
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Islam is of the Devil Aisha - 06/09/2009 03:30:51 AM 1672 Views
I swear, the levels of crazy are just increasing these days. Craig - 06/09/2009 06:04:19 AM 946 Views
People are stupid. Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 06:25:42 AM 1096 Views
This statement got me: Dragonsoul - 06/09/2009 06:30:16 AM 1319 Views
Re: This statement got me: Aisha - 06/09/2009 07:20:17 AM 932 Views
What you say about those places may be true random thoughts - 06/09/2009 02:16:30 PM 948 Views
Regardless... Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:34:48 AM 895 Views
Re: Regardless... Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:10:18 AM 1002 Views
I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:11:13 PM 1027 Views
Re: I'm not advocating the killing of Muslims. Kylia Skydancer - 08/09/2009 10:15:55 PM 999 Views
Okay... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:04:29 PM 929 Views
You are free to wear offensive clothing random thoughts - 08/09/2009 08:13:18 PM 979 Views
There is a difference between hatred and truth. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:04:02 PM 914 Views
You do know christans have done that as well don't you? random thoughts - 09/09/2009 06:04:28 PM 988 Views
The difference is... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:16:13 PM 888 Views
really have you actaully read the Qur'an random thoughts - 09/09/2009 06:33:38 PM 964 Views
there are some unsavory passages, and he knows it. nossy - 09/09/2009 06:46:59 PM 960 Views
Acrually No I don't. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 07:52:19 PM 836 Views
Someone should have told Jesus the OT was void random thoughts - 09/09/2009 10:31:39 PM 971 Views
Jesus was the one who voided it. Dragonsoul - 10/09/2009 12:25:18 AM 971 Views
so he was lying when he said he didn't? random thoughts - 10/09/2009 03:27:14 AM 1023 Views
Christ never said that. Dragonsoul - 10/09/2009 02:14:53 PM 938 Views
Logicaly, this is a stupid post. snoopcester - 06/09/2009 03:58:43 PM 986 Views
+1 *NM* The Shrike - 06/09/2009 08:56:02 PM 444 Views
+2 *NM* Dannymac - 06/09/2009 10:04:34 PM 415 Views
+3 *NM* Craig - 06/09/2009 10:36:48 PM 430 Views
As an Englishman, why are you even posting in this thread then? *NM* Joker - 07/09/2009 02:49:22 AM 459 Views
Because I can. snoopcester - 07/09/2009 10:15:57 AM 1001 Views
So can he. Joker - 07/09/2009 07:54:56 PM 905 Views
Yes nossy - 08/09/2009 05:59:24 AM 957 Views
It means a lot in context to the situation Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:14:50 PM 1031 Views
No, it does not. nossy - 08/09/2009 07:20:49 PM 995 Views
So now you can tell me what I can and can't do with my children? Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 11:31:16 PM 1003 Views
I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. nossy - 08/09/2009 11:59:21 PM 953 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:10:19 PM 1024 Views
Re: I can tell you what you can't make your children do in school. nossy - 09/09/2009 04:27:32 PM 1076 Views
Define "disruptive". Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:19:36 PM 953 Views
No. *NM* nossy - 09/09/2009 06:26:43 PM 463 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 09/09/2009 06:55:22 PM 436 Views
Ooh, look, I'm being baited. nossy - 09/09/2009 07:59:28 PM 918 Views
Then your argument has no merit. *NM* Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 07:52:47 PM 432 Views
you are making no sense snoopcester - 08/09/2009 11:35:12 AM 995 Views
Quite a bit. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:31:59 AM 964 Views
Luke 6:31 *NM* krassos - 07/09/2009 08:41:54 PM 502 Views
That applies to them as well. *NM* Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:08:55 PM 343 Views
The thing I think you are missing... Antigone - 06/09/2009 07:18:45 PM 1044 Views
Wait, what? Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 08:29:14 PM 1019 Views
I... kinda have to agree with Ghav, there. Craig - 06/09/2009 10:39:28 PM 997 Views
Yeah, what you said! Antigone - 06/09/2009 11:51:19 PM 1071 Views
don't make me get all vulcan on you. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:13:18 AM 420 Views
Wrong. Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:36:49 AM 976 Views
That is why America is different than those countries. Duh. *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2009 07:58:53 PM 628 Views
Because in America Dragonsoul - 07/09/2009 04:35:24 AM 1062 Views
Re: Because in America Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:16:05 AM 909 Views
And... Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:15:49 PM 916 Views
Jesus, you are a real piece of work. Moron. *NM* everynametaken - 07/09/2009 11:52:02 PM 322 Views
I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Tashmere - 08/09/2009 01:40:42 AM 983 Views
Go, Tash, go! Craig - 08/09/2009 05:52:01 AM 939 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Dragonsoul - 08/09/2009 07:18:00 PM 940 Views
"Their government" is the American government. *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2009 07:36:27 PM 400 Views
That is a concept many people can't seem to grasp *NM* random thoughts - 08/09/2009 08:14:50 PM 407 Views
The elf has a point. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 08/09/2009 10:18:26 PM 466 Views
And yet I don't see CAIR.. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:07:05 PM 896 Views
Why on earth should it? Legolas - 09/09/2009 05:14:30 PM 951 Views
Because... Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 06:25:41 PM 1006 Views
Re: Because... Legolas - 09/09/2009 07:06:24 PM 1184 Views
Really? Craig - 08/09/2009 08:02:42 PM 880 Views
Re: Really? everynametaken - 09/09/2009 12:11:36 AM 938 Views
Well it's not about whether it scans right to you. Dragonsoul - 09/09/2009 04:06:06 PM 837 Views
Oh, I was just clarifying. Craig - 09/09/2009 06:05:49 PM 886 Views
Re: I don't think I understand your basic reasoning. You can't be saying what it sounds like. Tashmere - 08/09/2009 11:49:48 PM 1012 Views
Failed edit. *NM* Tashmere - 08/09/2009 11:50:50 PM 439 Views
Exactly. *NM* everynametaken - 09/09/2009 12:12:52 AM 442 Views
I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note LadyLorraine - 06/09/2009 06:46:58 AM 980 Views
Re: I'm appalled that this was even worthy of note Aisha - 06/09/2009 07:22:59 AM 1116 Views
It didn't infringe on the First Amendment rights of others. Ghavrel - 06/09/2009 07:28:35 AM 961 Views
Er? You misunderstand the law quite a lot there Isaac - 06/09/2009 11:06:04 AM 962 Views
I believe the rest of the Church has done a horrible job explaining... everynametaken - 06/09/2009 08:02:25 PM 956 Views
When will people learn tolerance/=support...? Joel - 06/09/2009 12:30:23 PM 1027 Views
Well said *NM* Isaac - 06/09/2009 12:50:11 PM 439 Views
The sad thing is ou know it is the parents driving it all random thoughts - 06/09/2009 02:37:08 PM 1087 Views
The parents are disgusting idiots snoopcester - 06/09/2009 03:57:17 PM 982 Views
Fundamentalist nutjobs. Sheesh! *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2009 07:57:09 PM 512 Views
The appropriate punishment... Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 06:03:25 AM 983 Views
Punishment for what? Isaac - 07/09/2009 09:51:57 AM 989 Views
When did I say anything about a law? Kylia Skydancer - 07/09/2009 10:48:09 AM 955 Views
Since were talking about the law, not your opinion of right an wrong, it's sort of a default Isaac - 09/09/2009 05:01:08 PM 924 Views
Eh... I wish you were right, but I don't think you are. Ghavrel - 10/09/2009 03:50:18 AM 1034 Views
Morse isn't a bad example Isaac - 10/09/2009 11:23:32 AM 1010 Views
Fair enough. I'm just a little overzealous with what I see as infringements on civil liberties. Ghavrel - 15/09/2009 01:14:48 AM 1235 Views
That's the key point so many forget: Joel - 07/09/2009 11:42:12 PM 828 Views
It's not that they forget, they never 'get' to begin with Isaac - 09/09/2009 07:18:09 PM 1012 Views
No, that's pretty much it. Ghavrel - 10/09/2009 03:42:25 AM 1065 Views
You're right. Joel - 14/09/2009 11:11:38 AM 1140 Views
If I understand you nossy - 14/09/2009 03:05:39 PM 983 Views
Yes, that was it Isaac - 14/09/2009 04:17:45 PM 1144 Views
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