You have every opportunity to be married if you choose to at some point. External factors (finding the right person, being ready to marry, wanting to marry at all as a personal preference) may affect your decision to take advantage of the benefit, but you have every opportunity to take advantage of the benefit. All adults do. This benefit is not only a tax benefit, but an insurance benefit, an intestate succession benefit, and a whole host of other benefits that arise in the course of life.
To say that a homosexual cannot take advantage of the benefit because we are going to deny them the opportunity to enter into this government-recognized socioeconomic status, is to deny them equal protection under law.
To say that a homosexual cannot take advantage of the benefit because we are going to deny them the opportunity to enter into this government-recognized socioeconomic status, is to deny them equal protection under law.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Judge rules California's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional
- 04/08/2010 10:40:50 PM
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Good news, but as the article says, it'll go all the way to the SC.
- 04/08/2010 10:55:58 PM
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So then is that how we do it?
- 04/08/2010 11:01:19 PM
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Of course.
- 04/08/2010 11:04:59 PM
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His point was
- 04/08/2010 11:40:14 PM
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Yeah but: What Ghavrel said below *NM*
- 05/08/2010 08:01:02 AM
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And again...
- 05/08/2010 06:08:56 PM
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To quote my property professor: "Can I make you think like a Californian?"
- 05/08/2010 06:39:48 PM
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I'm not the one who came up with the referendum system, you do realize.
- 04/08/2010 11:11:13 PM
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- 04/08/2010 11:11:13 PM
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The referendum system, in my opinion, has been a failure, especially in CA.
- 04/08/2010 11:46:21 PM
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democracy has been a failure in CA.
- 05/08/2010 02:42:21 PM
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No. It just shows the problems of a crazy electorate.
- 05/08/2010 03:29:21 PM
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we vote fro way to much crap in general
- 05/08/2010 02:41:19 PM
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Yes, you still have to abide by the Constitution, even if a lot of people don't like it. *NM*
- 05/08/2010 12:07:44 AM
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Amend the Constitution to alter the Fourteenth Amendment if you don't like it. *NM*
- 05/08/2010 01:09:51 AM
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just a devil's advocate position here, but....
- 05/08/2010 04:23:43 AM
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Marriage is either an economic status regulated by law or a religious institution.
- 05/08/2010 05:13:17 AM
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There are certain things that should not be decided by a vote...
- 05/08/2010 02:02:45 AM
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I do agree with you on that. Hell yes, and on a subject like this in particular.
- 05/08/2010 02:17:24 AM
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Re: I do agree with you on that. Hell yes, and on a subject like this in particular.
- 05/08/2010 10:46:54 AM
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I understand it.
- 05/08/2010 03:06:40 PM
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I know you don't support proposition 8
- 05/08/2010 03:29:34 PM
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- 05/08/2010 03:34:01 PM
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- 05/08/2010 03:29:34 PM
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- 05/08/2010 03:34:01 PM
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But that is just simplistic and silly to complain about when it is a long standing possibility
- 05/08/2010 03:46:59 PM
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Oh, ees it?
- 05/08/2010 04:07:39 PM
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- 05/08/2010 04:07:39 PM
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Well they knew the rules before they started the whole thing
- 05/08/2010 04:12:33 PM
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- 05/08/2010 04:12:33 PM
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Why would you complain if you won?
- 05/08/2010 04:15:20 PM
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- 05/08/2010 04:15:20 PM
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You could recognise that you won by the system working in a way you don't like?
- 05/08/2010 04:23:58 PM
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I'm sure that happens, in general.
- 06/08/2010 02:43:18 PM
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It seems to happen a lot nowadays
- 06/08/2010 03:06:33 PM
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It's so weird that you feel differently - there is only room for one opinion here!
- 06/08/2010 03:41:52 PM
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- 06/08/2010 03:41:52 PM
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instead it should be decided by judges who answer to no one? *NM*
- 05/08/2010 07:12:59 AM
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The same judges who upheld our private right to bear arms.
- 05/08/2010 02:09:07 PM
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not when judges stop using the Constitution
- 05/08/2010 02:30:51 PM
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Sexual preference is not the right being protected.
- 05/08/2010 03:22:04 PM
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I know that the 14th amendment is routinely used in ways it was never intended.
- 05/08/2010 05:25:07 PM
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I realize that, but it is ultimately a good thing.
- 05/08/2010 05:31:19 PM
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let's take away the citizenship of all black people if that's the way you think
- 05/08/2010 09:06:23 PM
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Come now lets not be stupid
- 06/08/2010 05:31:18 PM
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sorry but your statement was completely ignorant.
- 06/08/2010 07:27:09 PM
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I will talk as soon as you stop spouting stupid rhetoric and say something relevant
- 06/08/2010 07:54:09 PM
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Let's just be clear about which amendment is which.
- 05/08/2010 11:50:57 PM
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but that still ignores intent and expands the law in ways not intnented when it created
- 06/08/2010 04:53:43 AM
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Yes, no, no, and no.
- 06/08/2010 05:29:09 AM
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there are serious flaws in your thinking here
- 06/08/2010 06:18:13 PM
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Your assertions continue to lack support.
- 06/08/2010 07:23:17 PM
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not all you just refuse to see things you disagree with
- 06/08/2010 08:36:32 PM
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...said the pot to the kettle
- 06/08/2010 09:17:28 PM
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yes but a shiny stainless steel pot
- 09/08/2010 11:21:33 PM
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You continue to be wrong about history and the role of courts.
- 10/08/2010 01:05:39 AM
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If he's wrong, a lot of law scholars and Supreme Court Justices are wrong.
- 10/08/2010 01:44:05 AM
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Brown vs. Board of Education, 'nuff said. *NM*
- 10/08/2010 04:32:37 AM
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Actually, that only proves his point, if I understand correctly. *NM*
- 10/08/2010 11:11:19 AM
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part oif the problem appears to be you completely missing the point
- 10/08/2010 01:23:19 PM
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There's a simple way to determine the degree to which that opinion is objective or subjective...
- 06/08/2010 09:32:21 PM
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Since when is marriage a right? *NM*
- 05/08/2010 04:11:16 PM
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it may not be a "right"...
- 05/08/2010 04:22:44 PM
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It's a benefit that is being extended selectively to one set of the populace.
- 05/08/2010 04:52:52 PM
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Hey, I'm single....
- 05/08/2010 05:05:41 PM
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That's a specious argument and you know it.
- 05/08/2010 05:13:17 PM
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A homosexual has every opportunity as well.....
- 05/08/2010 05:23:56 PM
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Oh quit the bullshit already.
- 05/08/2010 05:29:15 PM
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Sorry, but what a nonsense.
- 05/08/2010 09:27:17 PM
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hey that's it, jens! you solved the WHOLE PROBLEM!!!
- 05/08/2010 11:24:29 PM
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ON TO WORLD HUNGER!
- 06/08/2010 07:59:51 AM
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LET THEM HAVE CAEK. *NM*
- 06/08/2010 02:29:56 PM
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Are you sure it's wise to feed people on a lie? *NM*
- 06/08/2010 02:34:26 PM
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People are fed lies all the time
- 06/08/2010 09:30:37 PM
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Quite so, but I don't think it's commonly a mainstay of their diet *NM*
- 06/08/2010 09:50:33 PM
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It is the only thing which is abundant enough for everyone to have some...
*NM*
- 06/08/2010 10:01:44 PM
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*NM*
- 06/08/2010 10:01:44 PM
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I invite you to read the judge's conclusions, linked again inside.
- 05/08/2010 11:43:44 PM
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Since 1948
- 06/08/2010 04:01:02 AM
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gah. can. only. see. typo. *NM*
- 06/08/2010 03:43:21 PM
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I don't see any typo...
*NM*
- 06/08/2010 04:07:18 PM
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*NM*
- 06/08/2010 04:07:18 PM
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I agree
- 05/08/2010 07:22:17 AM
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And Civil Rights lost the Democrats the South.
- 05/08/2010 03:44:56 PM
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but it was done by congress passing laws and the president signing those laws
- 05/08/2010 04:20:19 PM
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I was under the impression that the supreme court had a role in it
- 05/08/2010 04:31:51 PM
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but the court was not over turning the laws passed by congress
- 05/08/2010 05:11:06 PM
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No, like in this case, isn't it?
- 05/08/2010 05:24:19 PM
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I would say that is another case of judicial activism and shows the danger of the practice
- 05/08/2010 05:43:02 PM
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Hard to believe it's the same governor who said "Gay marriage should be between a man and a woman." *NM*
- 04/08/2010 11:05:45 PM
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Link to the full court order inside:
- 04/08/2010 11:43:29 PM
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The judge quoting Scalia in favour of gay marriage is fairly amusing.
- 04/08/2010 11:50:47 PM
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What page was that on?
- 05/08/2010 11:25:49 AM
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Nah, it was way above page 109, in the findings of fact somewhere.
- 05/08/2010 12:37:48 PM
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Oh, that is brilliant.
- 05/08/2010 01:12:21 PM
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Pretty much.
- 05/08/2010 01:44:22 PM
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I've always wondered what basis there is for banning necrophilia if "it's disgusting" is invalid.
- 05/08/2010 01:51:19 PM
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because you cannot give consent when you are dead?
- 05/08/2010 03:04:46 PM
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what if you give consent while you are still alive?
- 05/08/2010 03:21:59 PM
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Is it then illegal?
- 05/08/2010 03:23:46 PM
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given I imagine the pro-necrophilia lobby isn't strong in numbers or influence
- 05/08/2010 03:33:11 PM
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Re: given I imagine the pro-necrophilia lobby isn't strong in numbers or influence
- 05/08/2010 03:34:57 PM
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I would think it would be illegal even then
- 05/08/2010 03:34:31 PM
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Wikipedia to the rescue!
- 05/08/2010 04:20:15 PM
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you would hope the other states would cover it under improper treatmentof human remains
- 05/08/2010 07:38:59 PM
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A dead body is just an object, not a person with rights.
- 05/08/2010 03:27:08 PM
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Yes, but
- 06/08/2010 08:42:05 AM
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Absolutely not.
- 06/08/2010 03:21:14 PM
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not to mention necrophilia has a large potential to be hazardous to health.
- 06/08/2010 09:42:43 PM
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Irrelevant decision.....this was heading to SCOTUS from day 1 *NM*
- 05/08/2010 12:53:26 AM
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