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This is a bit along the lines of what I have been thinking. nossy Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 07:49:15 PM
"'I was not commenting, and I will not comment, on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there,' he said the morning after he commented on the wisdom of making a decision to put a mosque there. 'I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding. That’s what our country is about.'"


Is that all he said? And what was he asked? Because I keep thinking he must have said much more if people find it confusing. I just haven't had time to look up any kind of transcript.

As you mention, I think it would have been a mistake to give any words for or against the mosque, even just to assuage some people.
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An amusing column on the NYC mosque by Maureen Dowd.... damookster - 20/08/2010 12:33:27 AM 1514 Views
She has a point. Bush had the guts to weather the storm on DPW. Legolas - 20/08/2010 12:42:21 AM 910 Views
DPW? I keep sitting here trying to figure out what that means. Tom - 20/08/2010 12:50:14 AM 774 Views
Re: DPW? I keep sitting here trying to figure out what that means. Legolas - 20/08/2010 12:56:44 AM 1040 Views
Once again, listen to the Economist and don't use abbreviations that aren't obvious. Tom - 20/08/2010 06:38:08 PM 792 Views
That abbreviation was obvious and all over the place at the time the incident happened. Legolas - 20/08/2010 07:59:08 PM 828 Views
I certainly don't remember seeing it anywhere. The abbreviation was unnecessary in any event. Tom - 20/08/2010 10:43:05 PM 755 Views
Sure, I could've done that, if I had realized it would puzzle people. I did not. *NM* Legolas - 20/08/2010 10:59:42 PM 491 Views
Always assume abbreviations will confuse. Tom - 22/08/2010 06:38:11 PM 909 Views
My vote goes to Dwarf peyote wigwam. *NM* mapthis - 20/08/2010 12:56:46 AM 582 Views
Deep Plied Wedgie. vote for DPW *NM* StarrBecca - 20/08/2010 01:03:08 AM 479 Views
well since Christie is actually a republican he makes a better example than Bloomberg random thoughts - 20/08/2010 01:53:44 PM 853 Views
wow, that was an interesting read BlackAdder - 20/08/2010 02:03:52 AM 871 Views
Gingrich thinks he is a deep thinker? Camilla - 20/08/2010 09:42:15 AM 715 Views
We've been through this, too, haven't we? Joel - 20/08/2010 10:12:15 AM 1007 Views
He makes historical references as often as possible, or at least in pretty much everything I've seen snoopcester - 20/08/2010 12:37:02 PM 868 Views
As he was a history professor and writes histories and alternate histories, this is not surprising Isaac - 20/08/2010 05:33:48 PM 1016 Views
I'm aware of that snoopcester - 20/08/2010 11:47:32 PM 742 Views
Re: I'm aware of that Isaac - 21/08/2010 12:40:29 AM 1024 Views
Re: I'm aware of that snoopcester - 21/08/2010 01:19:37 AM 890 Views
Re: I'm aware of that Isaac - 21/08/2010 01:59:48 AM 770 Views
Conservatives love Rome. I don't know why. Ghavrel - 21/08/2010 01:20:27 AM 822 Views
Rome was more often than not governed by aristocrats and did, after all, invent the republic. Joel - 21/08/2010 04:50:53 PM 1153 Views
"One man, one vote" always reminds me of Pratchett Floffe - 21/08/2010 05:03:35 PM 799 Views
Mmm, that seems to be how Romes patricians dealt with it, too. Joel - 21/08/2010 05:09:09 PM 802 Views
Me too *NM* Camilla - 21/08/2010 06:53:22 PM 497 Views
He did come up with a great plan to take over Congress in 1994. Tom - 20/08/2010 06:39:12 PM 802 Views
Except there doesn't seem to be any conflict between either position. Joel - 20/08/2010 10:06:20 AM 966 Views
When has logical consistency trumped politics? *NM* Macharius - 20/08/2010 01:50:55 PM 402 Views
True, but it does mean there's no "there" there. Joel - 20/08/2010 02:41:49 PM 784 Views
He has to learn he needs to be crystal clear on sensitive issues random thoughts - 20/08/2010 02:03:43 PM 1023 Views
In Washington, one must always present the APPEARANCE of integrity... Joel - 20/08/2010 02:40:24 PM 909 Views
Clinton lied about the BJ but what is your airtight proof that Bush lied? random thoughts - 20/08/2010 07:44:53 PM 977 Views
Ask and ye shall receive: Joel - 21/08/2010 06:42:50 PM 1156 Views
This is a bit along the lines of what I have been thinking. nossy - 20/08/2010 07:49:15 PM 997 Views
that sort of illustrates the problem random thoughts - 20/08/2010 08:56:42 PM 842 Views
It does nossy - 22/08/2010 04:56:54 PM 758 Views
Can't find anything now on the context of the second statement. Joel - 21/08/2010 05:05:51 PM 888 Views
I didn't see the problem either. He was simply stating the obvious. Tashmere - 21/08/2010 01:39:44 AM 732 Views
maybe damookster - 21/08/2010 02:49:40 AM 981 Views
Then restating it for those who refused to hear it, so that someone else could refuse to hear it. Joel - 21/08/2010 04:22:30 PM 1002 Views
Wow that is probably the best Dowd column I have ever read Roland00 - 21/08/2010 01:35:36 AM 762 Views
Yes, his backtracking was quite pussy-ish. *NM* everynametaken - 21/08/2010 04:00:31 AM 369 Views
How did he "backtrack" exactly? Joel - 21/08/2010 04:35:33 PM 1053 Views
c'mon Joel. are you being intentionally thick? damookster - 21/08/2010 05:02:27 PM 1073 Views
Having read those quotes I don't think he was backtracking on anything. (With link to speech) Tashmere - 22/08/2010 06:27:06 AM 1016 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 22/08/2010 01:37:23 PM 403 Views
did you take into your consideration damookster - 22/08/2010 03:50:59 PM 755 Views
I can't imagine why they would express concern over it. It wasn't controversial. That is on them Tashmere - 22/08/2010 03:58:32 PM 951 Views
that would be damookster - 22/08/2010 04:02:08 PM 1040 Views
But quote B just reiterated what he said the first time. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 04:13:21 PM 872 Views
I agree he is not backtracking random thoughts - 22/08/2010 06:49:36 PM 859 Views
I agree with you, Joel and Tash on this one. TaskmasterJack - 22/08/2010 07:52:34 PM 937 Views
While we're picking sides, I'm with Mook and Roland. Legolas - 22/08/2010 08:20:11 PM 786 Views
I never fail to be impressed with your intelligence damookster - 22/08/2010 08:25:11 PM 936 Views
I like how he's got rhetorical talents when it works nossy - 22/08/2010 08:32:15 PM 810 Views
nope just human *NM* Roland00 - 22/08/2010 08:37:17 PM 428 Views
that's not what Paul just said. nossy - 22/08/2010 08:42:24 PM 874 Views
He couldn't stay out, no. Legolas - 22/08/2010 08:56:47 PM 934 Views
I don't want to argue with you on a Sunday, my religion says I have to relax. nossy - 22/08/2010 09:03:54 PM 929 Views
key word: seem damookster - 22/08/2010 09:06:40 PM 860 Views
I was only using that term for you guys. I don't feel like beating you with a rolling pin until you nossy - 22/08/2010 09:14:39 PM 746 Views
good thing damookster - 22/08/2010 09:39:52 PM 1146 Views
Seems I interpret his speech on the iftar differently from you and Tash - see my reply to Tash. *NM* Legolas - 22/08/2010 09:25:13 PM 505 Views
Saw it, and yes, I believe we disagree. nossy - 22/08/2010 09:29:31 PM 768 Views
he could have and should have stayed out random thoughts - 22/08/2010 09:57:57 PM 885 Views
I think he's certainly got rhetoric talents... Legolas - 22/08/2010 08:54:11 PM 1311 Views
You don't really seem like you're taking a side to me. TaskmasterJack - 22/08/2010 09:14:02 PM 968 Views
I'm not even taking the time to comment on something so obvious as what he did. *NM* everynametaken - 22/08/2010 02:53:10 AM 491 Views
Except, of course, that you just did. Joel - 22/08/2010 12:30:00 PM 882 Views
Joel Roland00 - 22/08/2010 05:37:45 AM 1061 Views
That last line was golden. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/08/2010 05:40:56 AM 455 Views
His phrasing in the first speech implied that it was a bad idea. But legally they have the right. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 06:32:59 AM 982 Views
nonsense damookster - 22/08/2010 03:39:30 PM 923 Views
I still don't see how it can be misinterpreted except by intent by the listener. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 04:08:52 PM 900 Views
so we have reached the point of no return... damookster - 22/08/2010 04:18:46 PM 910 Views
In your case it would have to be number 2. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 07:38:20 PM 884 Views
ah, but I have no agenda here... damookster - 22/08/2010 07:41:59 PM 716 Views
lol.<3 nossy - 22/08/2010 08:49:35 PM 893 Views
that it is... damookster - 22/08/2010 08:57:05 PM 899 Views
hee. Well, I still don't agree with you, but at least you're snuggly.^_^ *NM* nossy - 22/08/2010 09:09:22 PM 669 Views
Tash you are very much a fair person in this world Roland00 - 22/08/2010 08:34:38 PM 989 Views
Or there is another option: 3) He was using tact. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 09:01:49 PM 917 Views
I really have to disagree with your interpretation of that first speech. Legolas - 22/08/2010 09:22:32 PM 1182 Views
On the off chance that this: Vodalus - 23/08/2010 12:38:48 AM 1082 Views
I do remember your reply... damookster - 23/08/2010 02:57:29 AM 1310 Views
Lies, prevarication and deceit again, eh? Joel - 22/08/2010 01:17:45 PM 1376 Views
that was a decent explanation.... damookster - 22/08/2010 05:18:18 PM 827 Views
Thanks. Joel - 22/08/2010 05:41:28 PM 886 Views
I do feel bad for them Roland00 - 22/08/2010 08:40:36 PM 784 Views
Re: Joel nossy - 22/08/2010 07:53:51 PM 927 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 22/08/2010 08:25:38 PM 555 Views
In the interests of fairness ( this does not support or detract from my position), here is the full Tashmere - 22/08/2010 09:22:50 PM 1127 Views
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