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Joel Roland00 Send a noteboard - 22/08/2010 05:37:45 AM
Obama is smart enough, has the personality, as well as the temperament that he always sees in shades of grey and nuance, and he would have created these two opinions almost simultaneously.

Obama can have those two opinions together at one time for they are not contradictory.

But he specifically mention opinion 1 to one audience to get a desired result. While on the next day spoke opinion 2 to another audience to get a different desired result. He refrained to mention opinion 2 to the first audience for it would get him in trouble, same thing for the next day but in reverse.

In other words he was purposefully two faced.

In relationships this would make you a ho.
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An amusing column on the NYC mosque by Maureen Dowd.... damookster - 20/08/2010 12:33:27 AM 1504 Views
She has a point. Bush had the guts to weather the storm on DPW. Legolas - 20/08/2010 12:42:21 AM 903 Views
DPW? I keep sitting here trying to figure out what that means. Tom - 20/08/2010 12:50:14 AM 767 Views
Re: DPW? I keep sitting here trying to figure out what that means. Legolas - 20/08/2010 12:56:44 AM 1033 Views
Once again, listen to the Economist and don't use abbreviations that aren't obvious. Tom - 20/08/2010 06:38:08 PM 786 Views
That abbreviation was obvious and all over the place at the time the incident happened. Legolas - 20/08/2010 07:59:08 PM 821 Views
I certainly don't remember seeing it anywhere. The abbreviation was unnecessary in any event. Tom - 20/08/2010 10:43:05 PM 748 Views
Sure, I could've done that, if I had realized it would puzzle people. I did not. *NM* Legolas - 20/08/2010 10:59:42 PM 489 Views
Always assume abbreviations will confuse. Tom - 22/08/2010 06:38:11 PM 903 Views
My vote goes to Dwarf peyote wigwam. *NM* mapthis - 20/08/2010 12:56:46 AM 578 Views
Deep Plied Wedgie. vote for DPW *NM* StarrBecca - 20/08/2010 01:03:08 AM 476 Views
well since Christie is actually a republican he makes a better example than Bloomberg random thoughts - 20/08/2010 01:53:44 PM 843 Views
wow, that was an interesting read BlackAdder - 20/08/2010 02:03:52 AM 863 Views
Gingrich thinks he is a deep thinker? Camilla - 20/08/2010 09:42:15 AM 707 Views
We've been through this, too, haven't we? Joel - 20/08/2010 10:12:15 AM 1000 Views
He makes historical references as often as possible, or at least in pretty much everything I've seen snoopcester - 20/08/2010 12:37:02 PM 861 Views
As he was a history professor and writes histories and alternate histories, this is not surprising Isaac - 20/08/2010 05:33:48 PM 1009 Views
I'm aware of that snoopcester - 20/08/2010 11:47:32 PM 734 Views
Re: I'm aware of that Isaac - 21/08/2010 12:40:29 AM 1017 Views
Re: I'm aware of that snoopcester - 21/08/2010 01:19:37 AM 881 Views
Re: I'm aware of that Isaac - 21/08/2010 01:59:48 AM 767 Views
Conservatives love Rome. I don't know why. Ghavrel - 21/08/2010 01:20:27 AM 815 Views
Rome was more often than not governed by aristocrats and did, after all, invent the republic. Joel - 21/08/2010 04:50:53 PM 1146 Views
"One man, one vote" always reminds me of Pratchett Floffe - 21/08/2010 05:03:35 PM 791 Views
Mmm, that seems to be how Romes patricians dealt with it, too. Joel - 21/08/2010 05:09:09 PM 796 Views
Me too *NM* Camilla - 21/08/2010 06:53:22 PM 495 Views
He did come up with a great plan to take over Congress in 1994. Tom - 20/08/2010 06:39:12 PM 795 Views
Except there doesn't seem to be any conflict between either position. Joel - 20/08/2010 10:06:20 AM 956 Views
When has logical consistency trumped politics? *NM* Macharius - 20/08/2010 01:50:55 PM 399 Views
True, but it does mean there's no "there" there. Joel - 20/08/2010 02:41:49 PM 776 Views
He has to learn he needs to be crystal clear on sensitive issues random thoughts - 20/08/2010 02:03:43 PM 1016 Views
In Washington, one must always present the APPEARANCE of integrity... Joel - 20/08/2010 02:40:24 PM 902 Views
Clinton lied about the BJ but what is your airtight proof that Bush lied? random thoughts - 20/08/2010 07:44:53 PM 971 Views
Ask and ye shall receive: Joel - 21/08/2010 06:42:50 PM 1147 Views
This is a bit along the lines of what I have been thinking. nossy - 20/08/2010 07:49:15 PM 989 Views
that sort of illustrates the problem random thoughts - 20/08/2010 08:56:42 PM 836 Views
It does nossy - 22/08/2010 04:56:54 PM 752 Views
Can't find anything now on the context of the second statement. Joel - 21/08/2010 05:05:51 PM 880 Views
I didn't see the problem either. He was simply stating the obvious. Tashmere - 21/08/2010 01:39:44 AM 726 Views
maybe damookster - 21/08/2010 02:49:40 AM 974 Views
Then restating it for those who refused to hear it, so that someone else could refuse to hear it. Joel - 21/08/2010 04:22:30 PM 995 Views
Wow that is probably the best Dowd column I have ever read Roland00 - 21/08/2010 01:35:36 AM 754 Views
Yes, his backtracking was quite pussy-ish. *NM* everynametaken - 21/08/2010 04:00:31 AM 364 Views
How did he "backtrack" exactly? Joel - 21/08/2010 04:35:33 PM 1046 Views
c'mon Joel. are you being intentionally thick? damookster - 21/08/2010 05:02:27 PM 1054 Views
Having read those quotes I don't think he was backtracking on anything. (With link to speech) Tashmere - 22/08/2010 06:27:06 AM 1007 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 22/08/2010 01:37:23 PM 398 Views
did you take into your consideration damookster - 22/08/2010 03:50:59 PM 749 Views
I can't imagine why they would express concern over it. It wasn't controversial. That is on them Tashmere - 22/08/2010 03:58:32 PM 944 Views
that would be damookster - 22/08/2010 04:02:08 PM 1034 Views
But quote B just reiterated what he said the first time. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 04:13:21 PM 865 Views
I agree he is not backtracking random thoughts - 22/08/2010 06:49:36 PM 852 Views
I agree with you, Joel and Tash on this one. TaskmasterJack - 22/08/2010 07:52:34 PM 927 Views
While we're picking sides, I'm with Mook and Roland. Legolas - 22/08/2010 08:20:11 PM 779 Views
I never fail to be impressed with your intelligence damookster - 22/08/2010 08:25:11 PM 930 Views
I like how he's got rhetorical talents when it works nossy - 22/08/2010 08:32:15 PM 803 Views
nope just human *NM* Roland00 - 22/08/2010 08:37:17 PM 426 Views
that's not what Paul just said. nossy - 22/08/2010 08:42:24 PM 867 Views
He couldn't stay out, no. Legolas - 22/08/2010 08:56:47 PM 914 Views
I don't want to argue with you on a Sunday, my religion says I have to relax. nossy - 22/08/2010 09:03:54 PM 923 Views
key word: seem damookster - 22/08/2010 09:06:40 PM 843 Views
I was only using that term for you guys. I don't feel like beating you with a rolling pin until you nossy - 22/08/2010 09:14:39 PM 739 Views
good thing damookster - 22/08/2010 09:39:52 PM 1139 Views
Seems I interpret his speech on the iftar differently from you and Tash - see my reply to Tash. *NM* Legolas - 22/08/2010 09:25:13 PM 503 Views
Saw it, and yes, I believe we disagree. nossy - 22/08/2010 09:29:31 PM 762 Views
he could have and should have stayed out random thoughts - 22/08/2010 09:57:57 PM 877 Views
I think he's certainly got rhetoric talents... Legolas - 22/08/2010 08:54:11 PM 1302 Views
You don't really seem like you're taking a side to me. TaskmasterJack - 22/08/2010 09:14:02 PM 960 Views
I'm not even taking the time to comment on something so obvious as what he did. *NM* everynametaken - 22/08/2010 02:53:10 AM 487 Views
Except, of course, that you just did. Joel - 22/08/2010 12:30:00 PM 875 Views
Joel Roland00 - 22/08/2010 05:37:45 AM 1056 Views
That last line was golden. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/08/2010 05:40:56 AM 453 Views
His phrasing in the first speech implied that it was a bad idea. But legally they have the right. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 06:32:59 AM 975 Views
nonsense damookster - 22/08/2010 03:39:30 PM 917 Views
I still don't see how it can be misinterpreted except by intent by the listener. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 04:08:52 PM 892 Views
so we have reached the point of no return... damookster - 22/08/2010 04:18:46 PM 903 Views
In your case it would have to be number 2. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 07:38:20 PM 877 Views
ah, but I have no agenda here... damookster - 22/08/2010 07:41:59 PM 709 Views
lol.<3 nossy - 22/08/2010 08:49:35 PM 886 Views
that it is... damookster - 22/08/2010 08:57:05 PM 886 Views
hee. Well, I still don't agree with you, but at least you're snuggly.^_^ *NM* nossy - 22/08/2010 09:09:22 PM 665 Views
Tash you are very much a fair person in this world Roland00 - 22/08/2010 08:34:38 PM 981 Views
Or there is another option: 3) He was using tact. Tashmere - 22/08/2010 09:01:49 PM 911 Views
I really have to disagree with your interpretation of that first speech. Legolas - 22/08/2010 09:22:32 PM 1176 Views
On the off chance that this: Vodalus - 23/08/2010 12:38:48 AM 1075 Views
I do remember your reply... damookster - 23/08/2010 02:57:29 AM 1303 Views
Lies, prevarication and deceit again, eh? Joel - 22/08/2010 01:17:45 PM 1368 Views
that was a decent explanation.... damookster - 22/08/2010 05:18:18 PM 819 Views
Thanks. Joel - 22/08/2010 05:41:28 PM 879 Views
I do feel bad for them Roland00 - 22/08/2010 08:40:36 PM 776 Views
Re: Joel nossy - 22/08/2010 07:53:51 PM 921 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 22/08/2010 08:25:38 PM 552 Views
In the interests of fairness ( this does not support or detract from my position), here is the full Tashmere - 22/08/2010 09:22:50 PM 1113 Views
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