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Re: those facts are not that easy to find Aisha Send a noteboard - 30/08/2010 01:16:09 AM
Unless an American wants to put a huge amount of effort into the issue it really isn’t that easy for the average person to really know what to think about Islam. They don’t trust the media (for good reason) and they are not going to be pacified simply because a talking head told them not to worry. When they see polls showing 40% of the Muslims in the UK support sharia why should they believe that they have nothing to fear? They watch CNN and are told that the imam who wants to build the “ground zero mosque” should be trusted because he is a moderate then they learn he refuses to condemn Hamas as terrorist and they begin to question what people mean when they say moderate Muslim. When they look around the and see people living under oppressive theocracies in the name of Islam and so few Muslims willing to condemn they worry. There is no majority Muslim nations that most American’s want to visit much less live in.

If Americans are going to trust Muslims Muslims are going to need to do more to earn that trust. When we see Muslims condemn the radicalism of some in their faith it is almost a nuanced condemnation that leaves you unsure what they really believe. When we see Muslims willing to give as much tolerance as they demand we may be more sympathetic.


What are you talking about with your last line. what muslims are you talking about when you talk about us giving as much tolerance as we demand? I dont understand why you use muslim countries like Saudi Arabia as an example of how tolerant muslims are. We cant do anyhting abotu the laws and leaders in our former muslim countries but I can tell you that muslim Americans are very tolerant of their surroundings here. You wont ever see a Mosque sponsered protest against gay bars or abortion clinics. you wont see mosque sponsered protests against strip clubs in this country or against churches or places selling pork or tatoo parlors. And i dont know why people say muslims need to do more to speak out against radicalism, I always speak out against radical extremists. EVERYONE that i know wholeheartedly condemns terrorist and acts of terrorism. Do we need to tatoo our position on extremism to our foreheads for you to get that? And there is nothing we can do about our former countries, we cant change the way the governments work and they things they let happen, in fact thats why we left those damn places in the first place!
Aisha - formerly known as randschicka
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Arson at future Islamic Center site 'takes it to a whole new level' - 29/08/2010 04:54:42 AM 1278 Views
Don't get too worried. Not every mosque in America is under attack. Take a breath - 29/08/2010 06:25:31 AM 714 Views
Re: Don't get too worried. Not every mosque in America is under attack. Take a breath - 29/08/2010 08:33:10 AM 714 Views
You have to be kidding. Or I wish you were anyway. - 29/08/2010 03:13:42 PM 731 Views
I think this is what she is refering to - 29/08/2010 03:39:41 PM 903 Views
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That was incredibly vague. Fence sitter. *NM* - 29/08/2010 07:37:47 PM 273 Views
churches temples and mosqes are often vandalized all of the country - 29/08/2010 07:58:15 PM 601 Views
*NM* - 29/08/2010 12:24:14 PM 352 Views
I agree. A new way of life. the place you want to feel safe. - 30/08/2010 02:29:41 AM 654 Views
It's unfortunate. - 29/08/2010 02:41:08 PM 762 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. - 29/08/2010 02:58:29 PM 690 Views
I don't think it's that simple. - 29/08/2010 03:45:44 PM 611 Views
And you just missed my point completely. - 29/08/2010 04:00:59 PM 712 Views
I won't bother. - 29/08/2010 11:19:17 PM 654 Views
An epiphany - 29/08/2010 11:33:19 PM 721 Views
those facts are not that easy to find - 29/08/2010 10:56:55 PM 782 Views
Are there no books in America? *NM* - 29/08/2010 10:59:00 PM 285 Views
public libraries are a socialist conspiracy *NM* - 30/08/2010 01:22:33 AM 276 Views
Lots of those books show the history of Islam... - 30/08/2010 01:24:34 AM 759 Views
you mean - 30/08/2010 01:27:04 AM 647 Views
Re: you mean - 30/08/2010 01:29:35 AM 702 Views
Re: you mean - 30/08/2010 01:32:01 AM 677 Views
Re: you mean - 30/08/2010 02:07:19 AM 708 Views
Yes - 30/08/2010 12:47:29 PM 679 Views
congrats! - 30/08/2010 03:29:41 AM 774 Views
what a well thought out reply *NM* - 30/08/2010 03:18:40 PM 271 Views
I thought her reply was too short too, but she does have a point. - 30/08/2010 04:23:01 PM 875 Views
Replies are short for a reason. - 30/08/2010 07:46:20 PM 662 Views
apperantly Fox News - 30/08/2010 08:32:28 PM 651 Views
heheheheheeheheheeheHEHAHEHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAaheheheheheheh - 30/08/2010 08:35:19 PM 696 Views
it would be funny if most liberals didn't really believe it was true - 30/08/2010 08:49:58 PM 672 Views
how about the thousands upon thousands of Muslims who haven't done anything? *NM* - 30/08/2010 08:51:36 PM 302 Views
lets make that millions upon millions. *NM* - 30/08/2010 11:20:32 PM 268 Views
Pfft - 30/08/2010 11:38:34 PM 689 Views
And my point was that maybe people need to get off their duffs - 31/08/2010 12:39:42 AM 675 Views
Re: those facts are not that easy to find - 30/08/2010 01:16:09 AM 684 Views
Now aisha, you know full well you're personally responsible for all of the middle east. - 30/08/2010 12:29:36 PM 699 Views
well she hasn't done much to sell the idea that Muslims are moderate *NM* - 30/08/2010 04:19:40 PM 312 Views
umm ok. *NM* - 30/08/2010 06:50:51 PM 306 Views
but she does not represent Islam. - 30/08/2010 07:12:20 PM 582 Views
less fallacious than claiming the country xenophobic because some morons torched a bulldozer *NM* - 30/08/2010 08:51:50 PM 255 Views
I think that would be 'equally' fallacious. *NM* - 31/08/2010 05:29:38 AM 287 Views
perception is reality in politics - 30/08/2010 04:18:59 PM 755 Views
Sure they are, you just can't cherry pick your sourcess. - 02/09/2010 04:20:20 PM 852 Views
Wow - that's paranoid - 29/08/2010 03:00:09 PM 729 Views
That's absurd. - 29/08/2010 03:47:31 PM 699 Views
how're you defining terrorist? - 29/08/2010 04:05:23 PM 711 Views
You are too young to remember the Christian Militia groups of the 1990s here in America. - 29/08/2010 06:51:55 PM 740 Views
well put *NM* - 29/08/2010 06:57:45 PM 729 Views
agreed. *NM* - 29/08/2010 07:04:14 PM 287 Views
That isn't a valid comparison - 29/08/2010 10:39:32 PM 716 Views
It's really not - 30/08/2010 03:25:07 AM 638 Views
Facts? - 30/08/2010 05:53:17 AM 649 Views
Your mind is already made up - no sense confusing you with facts - 31/08/2010 03:34:26 PM 762 Views
There are approximately 1,400 mosques in the U.S. Please name me 14 that have radicalized people. - 29/08/2010 06:41:39 PM 750 Views
14? Easy - 29/08/2010 07:31:24 PM 767 Views
Er... - 29/08/2010 08:01:50 PM 621 Views
Yeah, not a very subtle name - 29/08/2010 08:34:53 PM 672 Views
Re: Yeah, not a very subtle name - 30/08/2010 03:21:54 AM 718 Views
Re: Yeah, not a very subtle name - 30/08/2010 04:31:09 AM 777 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. - 30/08/2010 09:51:10 AM 989 Views
Re: It's unfortunate. - 30/08/2010 02:33:29 PM 803 Views

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