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If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis Send a noteboard - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM
For that to be done, sin cannot be sugar coated. That's what I see more of these days, honestly. Lots of feel-good, warm fuzzy, easy-believism. Don't like hearing that the Bible says <x habit/lifestyle/etc> is a sin? Fuhgeddabowdit. Join our religious social club and hang out with the nice people. Enjoy our nice building. Give some money to the poor and feel better. Stuff like that.

The ministries I'm diggin' the most right now are those of Francis Chan, John Piper and Mark Driscoll. They're examples of ministries engaging the culture and using modern media, while not backpedaling on issues of sin, Christ's supremacy or scriptural authority.
The sword might be grateful to the forge fire, but never fond of it.
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Preaching the Word: You're doing it wrong. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 08:22:14 AM 1510 Views
Danny if you were my preacher... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 12:42:59 PM 954 Views
Lots of good stuff Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 12:43:57 PM 931 Views
True enough. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:29:23 PM 1041 Views
Maybe it's just where you're coming from... Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 06:34:09 PM 879 Views
I like it SilverWarder - 31/08/2010 02:48:31 PM 721 Views
I really <3 you. @my - 31/08/2010 03:09:39 PM 906 Views
How much of that is your words? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 03:16:51 PM 1016 Views
he is a preacher LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 03:19:44 PM 995 Views
Most of it. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:26:24 PM 852 Views
Well done. *NM* Missa Sedai - 31/08/2010 04:46:54 PM 554 Views
I find myself disgusted that... globug0822 - 31/08/2010 05:12:06 PM 953 Views
he's a peachy preacher? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 05:27:08 PM 947 Views
LOL globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:31:45 PM 870 Views
Is my church the exception? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 05:33:36 PM 929 Views
Believe it or not... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 06:58:56 PM 889 Views
I'm not so full of myself.... Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:14:29 PM 1004 Views
I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 07:18:19 PM 811 Views
A little fire & brimstone for thy stomach's sake? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:29:20 PM 838 Views
passionate preachers make me uneasy. LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:38:05 PM 735 Views
Passion doesn't need to be... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:50:22 PM 1000 Views
Why do you take what he says so personally? Francie - 01/09/2010 08:51:06 PM 975 Views
I'm not taking anything personally.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:20:55 PM 1352 Views
good question,why would they? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:32:25 PM 925 Views
Your assumption... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:44:28 PM 1072 Views
Look him in the eye? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:59:02 PM 851 Views
Ok... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:34:56 PM 968 Views
so you would not say a murderer would go to heaven? LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:21:10 AM 924 Views
Forgiveness and repentance are humanity's most noble qualities. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:48:02 AM 846 Views
Isn't love your big thing? Jeordam - 02/09/2010 07:17:30 PM 1043 Views
yah I know. I just always feel like they're trying to sell me something. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:09:13 PM 485 Views
Wouldn't this be.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 892 Views
nah, i generally feel that way about that particular behavior. it's not exclusive to preachers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:29:23 PM 520 Views
Re: I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Camilla - 01/09/2010 12:40:20 PM 1002 Views
*throws panties at you* globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:35:13 PM 870 Views
There are churches where people throw panties at each other? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:42:17 PM 886 Views
I think you would also have to move to where she lives. I don't know any ones that do that here... *NM* Tashmere - 31/08/2010 09:47:21 PM 515 Views
I could just visit random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:55:50 PM 905 Views
but it'd be fun to WATCH LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:02:58 PM 860 Views
if the panties are the size of revival tents it wouldn't be all that fun *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2010 10:20:32 PM 442 Views
Why sure it would SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:57:05 AM 1021 Views
The Church of Tom Jones. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:59 PM 477 Views
(as if this was the first time) I remember that night at kit & wooly's place..... *NM* Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:51:17 PM 501 Views
I can't speak for everyone LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:40:12 PM 1022 Views
Testify Sistah Gaylen! Francie - 01/09/2010 02:47:50 PM 1068 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:40:55 PM 876 Views
Re: Believe it or not... TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:20 PM 955 Views
I never thought I could feel so free ee eeee *NM* Francie - 01/09/2010 02:48:18 PM 506 Views
As always, Danu - 31/08/2010 06:04:19 PM 978 Views
If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM 1026 Views
Well, at least you didn't include the vague "personal." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 08:59:55 PM 874 Views
....what? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:02:05 PM 871 Views
'Far as I can tell, it was a mock reply. *NM* Zalis - 31/08/2010 09:04:16 PM 449 Views
...ah...blagh. *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:07:00 PM 512 Views
It wasn't. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 09:56:35 PM 520 Views
The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 10:02:04 PM 787 Views
ahhh I see. That's interesting! *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:03:35 PM 493 Views
Re: The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Zalis - 31/08/2010 10:29:16 PM 1031 Views
I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 02:49:24 AM 894 Views
*picks up the thrown glove* Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:44:53 AM 1036 Views
You didn't say anything I disagree with. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 05:02:59 AM 899 Views
One of your statements suma great deal of Christianity, actually LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:39:52 PM 893 Views
So then in your estimation.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:52:12 PM 1115 Views
From what I do know... LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:33:14 PM 1024 Views
How about some homework first? Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:32:32 PM 1105 Views
You do understand LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:35:25 PM 881 Views
You'd be suprised... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:50:12 PM 809 Views
Because I find theology interesting LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 10:04:23 PM 862 Views
You'd make such a good Episcopalian. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:17:56 AM 405 Views
Coincidently, Ghav... LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:22:10 AM 866 Views
Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:03:13 AM 905 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:09:46 PM 1084 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 11:59:47 PM 1125 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 02/09/2010 01:03:42 AM 958 Views
It isn't henosis. It's a union with God. That's the whole point of the Eucharist, anyway. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:13:39 AM 893 Views
"mock"...really??? damookster - 02/09/2010 07:22:34 PM 992 Views
Moralistic, therapeutic Deism sounds like the perfect religion to me... *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 04:35:51 PM 472 Views
I think that its a great word to use... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:46:59 PM 1006 Views
Bummer Jesus couldn't figure that one out. Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:48:03 AM 859 Views
"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 07:25:19 AM 894 Views
well OBVIOUSLY LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:29:20 PM 950 Views
Jesus talked about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, AFAIK. Zalis - 01/09/2010 02:39:59 PM 969 Views
You might want to research that some SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 02:56:58 PM 871 Views
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:38:00 PM 1008 Views
Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:25:12 PM 982 Views
the weeds will be gathered and burned does seem a little suggestive *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 06:55:44 PM 480 Views
yes of burning. LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:38:07 PM 1020 Views
burning and gnashing teeth *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 07:50:53 PM 497 Views
well wouldn't you gnash your teeth if you were on fire? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:51:36 PM 1037 Views
Jesus needs to work on his analogies LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:39:12 PM 969 Views
there is a hell random thoughts - 01/09/2010 09:12:34 PM 1026 Views
lollers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:17:16 PM 487 Views
to each their own... damookster - 01/09/2010 11:02:41 PM 916 Views
+1 *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2010 03:43:10 AM 461 Views
Something of a false dilemma, that. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:10:25 AM 863 Views
or perhaps... damookster - 02/09/2010 04:18:57 AM 1004 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:31:33 AM 487 Views
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