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Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance. Zalis Send a noteboard - 01/09/2010 03:38:00 PM
"Hell" is largely a medieval creation. Unless you are using a very screwed up bible I don't believe Christ ever mentions the term at all.

(He does mention the devil from time to time, but that is not the same thing)


Hell is definitely there at the culmination of the parable. You'd have to pick a very "interesting" translation to avoid the topic here.

Honestly, though, I much prefer His next parable as a life-driving passage:
The Parables of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl
44"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.

45"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. 46When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.


It speaks of truth that isn't just a hobby or tradition, but something worth giving our all for.
The sword might be grateful to the forge fire, but never fond of it.
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True enough. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:29:23 PM 1106 Views
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I really <3 you. @my - 31/08/2010 03:09:39 PM 972 Views
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he is a preacher LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 03:19:44 PM 1079 Views
Most of it. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:26:24 PM 919 Views
Well done. *NM* Missa Sedai - 31/08/2010 04:46:54 PM 604 Views
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he's a peachy preacher? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 05:27:08 PM 1011 Views
LOL globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:31:45 PM 934 Views
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Believe it or not... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 06:58:56 PM 955 Views
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I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 07:18:19 PM 883 Views
A little fire & brimstone for thy stomach's sake? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:29:20 PM 906 Views
passionate preachers make me uneasy. LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:38:05 PM 801 Views
Passion doesn't need to be... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:50:22 PM 1069 Views
Why do you take what he says so personally? Francie - 01/09/2010 08:51:06 PM 1044 Views
I'm not taking anything personally.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:20:55 PM 1421 Views
good question,why would they? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:32:25 PM 1004 Views
Your assumption... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:44:28 PM 1144 Views
Look him in the eye? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:59:02 PM 912 Views
Ok... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:34:56 PM 1034 Views
so you would not say a murderer would go to heaven? LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:21:10 AM 983 Views
Forgiveness and repentance are humanity's most noble qualities. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:48:02 AM 909 Views
Isn't love your big thing? Jeordam - 02/09/2010 07:17:30 PM 1121 Views
yah I know. I just always feel like they're trying to sell me something. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:09:13 PM 525 Views
Wouldn't this be.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 952 Views
nah, i generally feel that way about that particular behavior. it's not exclusive to preachers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:29:23 PM 554 Views
Re: I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Camilla - 01/09/2010 12:40:20 PM 1069 Views
*throws panties at you* globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:35:13 PM 932 Views
There are churches where people throw panties at each other? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:42:17 PM 952 Views
I think you would also have to move to where she lives. I don't know any ones that do that here... *NM* Tashmere - 31/08/2010 09:47:21 PM 557 Views
I could just visit random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:55:50 PM 999 Views
but it'd be fun to WATCH LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:02:58 PM 938 Views
if the panties are the size of revival tents it wouldn't be all that fun *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2010 10:20:32 PM 479 Views
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The Church of Tom Jones. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:59 PM 513 Views
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Testify Sistah Gaylen! Francie - 01/09/2010 02:47:50 PM 1138 Views
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I never thought I could feel so free ee eeee *NM* Francie - 01/09/2010 02:48:18 PM 537 Views
As always, Danu - 31/08/2010 06:04:19 PM 1044 Views
If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM 1096 Views
Well, at least you didn't include the vague "personal." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 08:59:55 PM 936 Views
....what? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:02:05 PM 945 Views
'Far as I can tell, it was a mock reply. *NM* Zalis - 31/08/2010 09:04:16 PM 483 Views
...ah...blagh. *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:07:00 PM 545 Views
It wasn't. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 09:56:35 PM 556 Views
The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 10:02:04 PM 847 Views
ahhh I see. That's interesting! *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:03:35 PM 526 Views
Re: The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Zalis - 31/08/2010 10:29:16 PM 1112 Views
I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 02:49:24 AM 960 Views
*picks up the thrown glove* Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:44:53 AM 1105 Views
You didn't say anything I disagree with. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 05:02:59 AM 972 Views
One of your statements suma great deal of Christianity, actually LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:39:52 PM 956 Views
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You do understand LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:35:25 PM 962 Views
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You'd make such a good Episcopalian. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:17:56 AM 445 Views
Coincidently, Ghav... LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:22:10 AM 931 Views
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Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:09:46 PM 1176 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 11:59:47 PM 1189 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 02/09/2010 01:03:42 AM 1038 Views
It isn't henosis. It's a union with God. That's the whole point of the Eucharist, anyway. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:13:39 AM 951 Views
"mock"...really??? damookster - 02/09/2010 07:22:34 PM 1085 Views
Moralistic, therapeutic Deism sounds like the perfect religion to me... *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 04:35:51 PM 504 Views
I think that its a great word to use... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:46:59 PM 1085 Views
Bummer Jesus couldn't figure that one out. Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:48:03 AM 923 Views
"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 07:25:19 AM 970 Views
well OBVIOUSLY LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:29:20 PM 1026 Views
Jesus talked about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, AFAIK. Zalis - 01/09/2010 02:39:59 PM 1040 Views
You might want to research that some SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 02:56:58 PM 935 Views
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:38:00 PM 1073 Views
Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:25:12 PM 1054 Views
the weeds will be gathered and burned does seem a little suggestive *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 06:55:44 PM 512 Views
yes of burning. LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:38:07 PM 1086 Views
burning and gnashing teeth *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 07:50:53 PM 540 Views
well wouldn't you gnash your teeth if you were on fire? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:51:36 PM 1117 Views
Jesus needs to work on his analogies LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:39:12 PM 1033 Views
there is a hell random thoughts - 01/09/2010 09:12:34 PM 1112 Views
lollers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:17:16 PM 521 Views
to each their own... damookster - 01/09/2010 11:02:41 PM 974 Views
+1 *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2010 03:43:10 AM 492 Views
Something of a false dilemma, that. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:10:25 AM 924 Views
or perhaps... damookster - 02/09/2010 04:18:57 AM 1084 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:31:33 AM 525 Views
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