Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version
SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 01/09/2010 06:25:12 PM
Hell is definitely there at the culmination of the parable. You'd have to pick a very "interesting" translation to avoid the topic here. 

Not at all.
What you are missing is the context. In original Hebrew tradition the wages of sin is death (not hell). The actual term, I believe it is golgotha, does not translate from the Hebrew to 'hell' as Jews don't have that concept. It just means 'dead'. Like I said, Hell is a medieval reference, created to keep serfs happy in their fields and not rising up against their 'betters'.
All the end of that parable is refering to is the angels showing up and killing the sinners in question. That's it. Killing them with flame (a la Sodom and Gomorrah) to be sure, but still, just killing them. Jesus' original audience were Jews, remember, and they did not have, and still do not have, any concept which equates to 'hell'. His audience just heard, loosely transliterated, 'Dad's kick butt lads are going to catch those bastards and burn them alive and OH are they ever going to be sorry!'
We've had a LOT of biblical discussions on this board over the last six or eight years. You'll want to study a lot more carefully before trying to come across as an authority because you will get utterly decimated by the ones who have read the scriptures in their original tongues (no translation required), can speak and read Aramaic, Coptic Greek, Classical Latin and Ancient Egyptian. I'm a piker next to them and they will flay you.
May God stand between you and harm in all the empty places you must walk.
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Is my church the exception?
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Believe it or not...
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I'm not so full of myself....
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I wouldn't blame you much if you did...
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A little fire & brimstone for thy stomach's sake?
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passionate preachers make me uneasy.
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Passion doesn't need to be...
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Why do you take what he says so personally?
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I'm not taking anything personally....
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good question,why would they?
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Your assumption...
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Look him in the eye?
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Ok...
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yah I know. I just always feel like they're trying to sell me something. *NM*
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Wouldn't this be....
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nah, i generally feel that way about that particular behavior. it's not exclusive to preachers
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*throws panties at you*
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There are churches where people throw panties at each other?
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I think you would also have to move to where she lives. I don't know any ones that do that here... *NM*
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I could just visit
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but it'd be fun to WATCH
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if the panties are the size of revival tents it wouldn't be all that fun
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(as if this was the first time) I remember that night at kit & wooly's place..... *NM*
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If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong.
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Well, at least you didn't include the vague "personal."
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....what?
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The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark."
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Re: The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark."
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I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing.
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*picks up the thrown glove*
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You didn't say anything I disagree with.
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One of your statements suma great deal of Christianity, actually
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So then in your estimation....
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From what I do know...
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How about some homework first?
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You do understand
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You'd be suprised...
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Because I find theology interesting
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Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing.
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It isn't henosis. It's a union with God. That's the whole point of the Eucharist, anyway.
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Moralistic, therapeutic Deism sounds like the perfect religion to me... *NM*
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Bummer Jesus couldn't figure that one out.
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"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying.
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Jesus talked about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, AFAIK.
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You might want to research that some
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Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance.
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Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version
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the weeds will be gathered and burned does seem a little suggestive *NM*
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yes of burning.
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to each their own...
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