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Something of a false dilemma, that. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 02/09/2010 04:10:25 AM
Bottom line-

Either there is one right way and all the rest are wrong...

Or everyone is pleasing to the God or Gods they worship and it doesn't make a damned bit of difference what you preach. Or believe. Or not believe.

So which one is it?


You could have a God that was okay with everything except, say, lilac.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

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Preaching the Word: You're doing it wrong. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 08:22:14 AM 1444 Views
Danny if you were my preacher... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 12:42:59 PM 919 Views
Lots of good stuff Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 12:43:57 PM 897 Views
True enough. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:29:23 PM 1001 Views
Maybe it's just where you're coming from... Bramhodoulos - 31/08/2010 06:34:09 PM 840 Views
I like it SilverWarder - 31/08/2010 02:48:31 PM 688 Views
I really <3 you. @my - 31/08/2010 03:09:39 PM 870 Views
How much of that is your words? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 03:16:51 PM 973 Views
he is a preacher LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 03:19:44 PM 958 Views
Most of it. Dannymac - 31/08/2010 04:26:24 PM 816 Views
Well done. *NM* Missa Sedai - 31/08/2010 04:46:54 PM 529 Views
I find myself disgusted that... globug0822 - 31/08/2010 05:12:06 PM 916 Views
he's a peachy preacher? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 05:27:08 PM 898 Views
LOL globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:31:45 PM 835 Views
Is my church the exception? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 05:33:36 PM 894 Views
Believe it or not... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 06:58:56 PM 851 Views
I'm not so full of myself.... Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:14:29 PM 967 Views
I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Dannymac - 31/08/2010 07:18:19 PM 768 Views
A little fire & brimstone for thy stomach's sake? Jeordam - 31/08/2010 07:29:20 PM 803 Views
passionate preachers make me uneasy. LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:38:05 PM 699 Views
Passion doesn't need to be... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:50:22 PM 963 Views
Why do you take what he says so personally? Francie - 01/09/2010 08:51:06 PM 943 Views
I'm not taking anything personally.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:20:55 PM 1303 Views
good question,why would they? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:32:25 PM 886 Views
Your assumption... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:44:28 PM 1033 Views
Look him in the eye? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:59:02 PM 807 Views
Ok... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:34:56 PM 918 Views
so you would not say a murderer would go to heaven? LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:21:10 AM 880 Views
Forgiveness and repentance are humanity's most noble qualities. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:48:02 AM 806 Views
Isn't love your big thing? Jeordam - 02/09/2010 07:17:30 PM 1009 Views
yah I know. I just always feel like they're trying to sell me something. *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:09:13 PM 450 Views
Wouldn't this be.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:22:27 PM 851 Views
nah, i generally feel that way about that particular behavior. it's not exclusive to preachers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:29:23 PM 501 Views
Re: I wouldn't blame you much if you did... Camilla - 01/09/2010 12:40:20 PM 964 Views
*throws panties at you* globug0822 - 31/08/2010 08:35:13 PM 809 Views
There are churches where people throw panties at each other? random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:42:17 PM 847 Views
I think you would also have to move to where she lives. I don't know any ones that do that here... *NM* Tashmere - 31/08/2010 09:47:21 PM 499 Views
I could just visit random thoughts - 31/08/2010 09:55:50 PM 865 Views
but it'd be fun to WATCH LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:02:58 PM 819 Views
if the panties are the size of revival tents it wouldn't be all that fun *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2010 10:20:32 PM 425 Views
Why sure it would SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:57:05 AM 949 Views
The Church of Tom Jones. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:59 PM 463 Views
(as if this was the first time) I remember that night at kit & wooly's place..... *NM* Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:51:17 PM 483 Views
I can't speak for everyone LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 08:40:12 PM 986 Views
Testify Sistah Gaylen! Francie - 01/09/2010 02:47:50 PM 1028 Views
Contemplate this then.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:40:55 PM 840 Views
Re: Believe it or not... TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2010 10:22:20 PM 914 Views
I never thought I could feel so free ee eeee *NM* Francie - 01/09/2010 02:48:18 PM 487 Views
As always, Danu - 31/08/2010 06:04:19 PM 946 Views
If people don't see their need for Jesus as savior, we're doing it wrong. Zalis - 31/08/2010 08:44:36 PM 989 Views
Well, at least you didn't include the vague "personal." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 08:59:55 PM 829 Views
....what? LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:02:05 PM 831 Views
'Far as I can tell, it was a mock reply. *NM* Zalis - 31/08/2010 09:04:16 PM 434 Views
...ah...blagh. *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 09:07:00 PM 496 Views
It wasn't. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 09:56:35 PM 474 Views
The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Ghavrel - 31/08/2010 10:02:04 PM 747 Views
ahhh I see. That's interesting! *NM* LadyLorraine - 31/08/2010 10:03:35 PM 477 Views
Re: The word used for "sin" in the New Testament is ἁμαρτία, which means "to miss the mark." Zalis - 31/08/2010 10:29:16 PM 995 Views
I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 02:49:24 AM 837 Views
*picks up the thrown glove* Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:44:53 AM 995 Views
You didn't say anything I disagree with. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 05:02:59 AM 844 Views
One of your statements suma great deal of Christianity, actually LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:39:52 PM 862 Views
So then in your estimation.... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:52:12 PM 1053 Views
From what I do know... LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:33:14 PM 989 Views
How about some homework first? Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:32:32 PM 1066 Views
You do understand LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:35:25 PM 848 Views
You'd be suprised... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 09:50:12 PM 778 Views
Because I find theology interesting LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 10:04:23 PM 827 Views
You'd make such a good Episcopalian. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:17:56 AM 388 Views
Coincidently, Ghav... LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:22:10 AM 825 Views
Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:03:13 AM 860 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:09:46 PM 1026 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 11:59:47 PM 1071 Views
Re: I love the smell of Calvinism in the morning. It smells like... self-loathing. Zalis - 02/09/2010 01:03:42 AM 915 Views
It isn't henosis. It's a union with God. That's the whole point of the Eucharist, anyway. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:13:39 AM 857 Views
"mock"...really??? damookster - 02/09/2010 07:22:34 PM 952 Views
Moralistic, therapeutic Deism sounds like the perfect religion to me... *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 04:35:51 PM 454 Views
I think that its a great word to use... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 03:46:59 PM 970 Views
Bummer Jesus couldn't figure that one out. Dannymac - 01/09/2010 03:48:03 AM 815 Views
"That ye love one another; as I have loved you" is actually somewhat terrifying. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 07:25:19 AM 855 Views
well OBVIOUSLY LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 12:29:20 PM 916 Views
Jesus talked about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, AFAIK. Zalis - 01/09/2010 02:39:59 PM 914 Views
You might want to research that some SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 02:56:58 PM 830 Views
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, for instance. Zalis - 01/09/2010 03:38:00 PM 964 Views
Nice try, but you will notice that the term "Hell" is entirely absent in the King James version SilverWarder - 01/09/2010 06:25:12 PM 950 Views
the weeds will be gathered and burned does seem a little suggestive *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 06:55:44 PM 463 Views
yes of burning. LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:38:07 PM 971 Views
burning and gnashing teeth *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2010 07:50:53 PM 481 Views
well wouldn't you gnash your teeth if you were on fire? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:51:36 PM 1006 Views
Jesus needs to work on his analogies LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 07:39:12 PM 936 Views
there is a hell random thoughts - 01/09/2010 09:12:34 PM 967 Views
lollers *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:17:16 PM 473 Views
to each their own... damookster - 01/09/2010 11:02:41 PM 879 Views
+1 *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2010 03:43:10 AM 443 Views
Something of a false dilemma, that. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:10:25 AM 827 Views
or perhaps... damookster - 02/09/2010 04:18:57 AM 966 Views
*NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 04:31:33 AM 453 Views
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