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Not simple, but I'll keep it very short Bramhodoulos Send a noteboard - 02/09/2010 03:42:29 PM
First the simple answer: it will be eternal.

Now the difficult-to-describe part.

Premise: there is a perfectly-good, perfectly-holy and perfectly-just God.

Observation: no person alive is perfetly-good, perfectly-holy and perfectly-just.

Theological notion: the perfect and the imperfect cannont coexist in peace, since the way in which the imperfect is not-perfect involves a deliberate choice not to want to be perfect and thus an insult and an attack upon the perfect.

Hence the perfect, being perfect has to vindicate this attack upon his perfection using perfect justice.

Justice needs to answer several questions concerning the nature of a crime, the duration of a crime, the intensity of a crime and the one(s) against whom the crime is committed.

Since the person against whom the crime is committed is perfect and infinite the punishment has to be perfect and infinite.

This is hell.
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So how do you define "Hell"? (*Edit with extra question.) Tashmere - 01/09/2010 09:27:29 PM 1451 Views
small townish. jh - 01/09/2010 09:33:18 PM 943 Views
Hell actually is a small town. ranagrande - 06/09/2010 07:43:05 AM 962 Views
No, it is in Norway. *NM* jh - 18/09/2010 01:31:26 PM 518 Views
endless loops of reality TV, soft rock, and New Age music *NM* damookster - 01/09/2010 09:35:20 PM 461 Views
*shudder* *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 09:36:39 PM 553 Views
that's right... damookster - 01/09/2010 09:50:01 PM 973 Views
I completely agree. *NM* Tashmere - 01/09/2010 11:16:18 PM 498 Views
that is evil. just horrid. *NM* StarrBecca - 02/09/2010 01:40:31 AM 541 Views
Hell, per Phelix... Phelix - 01/09/2010 09:44:32 PM 1004 Views
I was going to reply to Tash's question ... Darth_Katie - 01/09/2010 09:58:25 PM 925 Views
High five! Phelix - 01/09/2010 11:35:53 PM 930 Views
My office. Francie - 01/09/2010 09:53:44 PM 932 Views
Outliving the people you love. *NM* ironclad - 01/09/2010 10:03:28 PM 533 Views
that's really quite sad. *NM* StarrBecca - 02/09/2010 01:41:18 AM 514 Views
Well if it's not you, then it's them BlackAdder - 02/09/2010 02:52:58 AM 857 Views
burying your children *NM* damookster - 02/09/2010 03:27:29 AM 634 Views
Exactly ironclad - 02/09/2010 08:20:28 AM 965 Views
France. snoopcester - 01/09/2010 10:03:55 PM 1042 Views
oooh... damookster - 01/09/2010 10:07:54 PM 982 Views
EVEN WORSE....with ICELANDIC FOOD!!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 10:08:51 PM 532 Views
That doesn't make sense ironclad - 01/09/2010 10:17:36 PM 861 Views
I realise German food isn't great snoopcester - 01/09/2010 10:25:31 PM 951 Views
Mmmmmmmm... ironclad - 01/09/2010 10:50:41 PM 961 Views
delicious any way you say it *NM* BlackAdder - 02/09/2010 01:21:53 AM 899 Views
You people need a letter limit. nossy - 02/09/2010 02:35:10 AM 834 Views
You people need a longer attention span *NM* ironclad - 02/09/2010 08:22:12 AM 534 Views
I believe in Germany there is a word for that snoopcester - 02/09/2010 10:32:13 AM 935 Views
But with more ch's and some cute little dots over the vowels. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 02/09/2010 09:13:36 PM 446 Views
.... for that?? *NM* jh - 02/09/2010 05:43:48 PM 522 Views
We should reconsider if the retirement home we picked for her in Wales is the right place *NM* ironclad - 03/09/2010 08:38:13 AM 568 Views
You are Welsh now? snoopcester - 03/09/2010 11:41:05 AM 962 Views
No but they got even longer words than we do! *NM* ironclad - 03/09/2010 11:44:49 AM 498 Views
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch? snoopcester - 03/09/2010 01:00:58 PM 869 Views
If there is one thing americans know about German food it is... everynametaken - 06/09/2010 04:32:41 AM 1019 Views
Bratwurst is fucking awesome *NM* ironclad - 06/09/2010 07:22:28 PM 535 Views
And British weather? *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 10:18:31 PM 506 Views
Our weather is a talking point *NM* snoopcester - 01/09/2010 10:25:52 PM 482 Views
Yes, but when it's the French doing the talking... you see where I'm going with this? *NM* Legolas - 01/09/2010 10:27:50 PM 561 Views
touche? *NM* snoopcester - 01/09/2010 10:29:48 PM 540 Views
Which is why the English are considered boring. *NM* Tashmere - 01/09/2010 11:18:41 PM 478 Views
It isn't our fault people haven't experienced our weather *NM* snoopcester - 01/09/2010 11:22:56 PM 576 Views
Does it ever actually change? I thought it was foggy, overcast and damp constantly. Tashmere - 01/09/2010 11:27:36 PM 913 Views
It is all about timing snoopcester - 01/09/2010 11:30:14 PM 989 Views
People in Seattle have. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 02/09/2010 12:02:14 AM 546 Views
True dat. Phelix - 02/09/2010 12:32:22 AM 811 Views
This last time I couldn't get used to it. Joel - 17/09/2010 05:36:03 AM 1076 Views
That's because nobody want to experience you weather! *NM* everynametaken - 06/09/2010 04:33:29 AM 524 Views
I actually envision it... Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:22:16 PM 1062 Views
jaw-pain is that bad then? LadyLorraine - 01/09/2010 10:32:18 PM 938 Views
*shrug* Jeordam - 01/09/2010 10:49:37 PM 1042 Views
oh i'm sure...but hell-levels of pain? LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 12:59:52 AM 948 Views
Camilla - 01/09/2010 10:47:25 PM 959 Views
you see how much Tashy has changed.... damookster - 01/09/2010 10:54:59 PM 1051 Views
Hehe. Good one, Mook. *NM* Tashmere - 01/09/2010 11:20:35 PM 525 Views
Wrong place. *NM* Tashmere - 01/09/2010 11:22:52 PM 544 Views
So does anybody here actually envision it as burning in fire and brimstone? I have been told that Tashmere - 01/09/2010 11:25:15 PM 773 Views
See, most people mis-define "hell." Phelix - 01/09/2010 11:33:30 PM 923 Views
Yet Christ speaks of it the same way. Joel - 17/09/2010 05:17:57 AM 849 Views
no damookster - 02/09/2010 03:39:38 AM 821 Views
If you want to know what death is like you experience it every night when you sleep. everynametaken - 06/09/2010 04:37:41 AM 936 Views
exactly *NM* damookster - 06/09/2010 03:16:24 PM 526 Views
Certainly not. *NM* ironclad - 02/09/2010 09:50:19 AM 494 Views
I don't believe in Hell. At least not an eternal one. Ghavrel - 01/09/2010 11:55:02 PM 1106 Views
One of my favorite jokes is along those lines... Phelix - 02/09/2010 12:37:18 AM 970 Views
Hee! Reminds me of Bishop Gene Robinson. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 12:45:24 AM 769 Views
I love most of the words that come from Gene's mouth. Phelix - 02/09/2010 12:48:24 AM 978 Views
I got to have dinner with him. Sat at his table! He's so funny. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:00:23 AM 855 Views
You realize my envy level just shot through the roof. Phelix - 02/09/2010 01:02:06 AM 973 Views
I know. Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 01:11:25 AM 994 Views
A full wotmania chat with no ignore, no logout button and none of your friends present. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 02/09/2010 12:04:18 AM 487 Views
This. *NM* Avendesora - 02/09/2010 07:49:56 PM 540 Views
I don't believe in hell. *NM* Avendesora - 02/09/2010 07:50:39 PM 510 Views
A bar with limitless free whiskey where one is unable to become drunk. Stephen - 02/09/2010 12:28:17 AM 783 Views
That task is beyond my pay grade *NM* BlackAdder - 02/09/2010 01:27:49 AM 518 Views
That's a great question, but I don't really think anything about it. nossy - 02/09/2010 02:39:35 AM 1004 Views
Hell is the Absence of God. Chas - 02/09/2010 03:12:12 AM 848 Views
I don't know but if they have 3G I will NB you a description when I get there *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2010 03:40:04 AM 487 Views
hell has 3G but no signal... damookster - 02/09/2010 03:43:11 AM 846 Views
If there is such a thing SilverWarder - 02/09/2010 04:39:26 AM 1110 Views
No kidding. Tashmere - 02/09/2010 04:49:38 AM 931 Views
I agree SilverWarder - 02/09/2010 05:03:32 AM 1000 Views
hmmm. although all that assumes a humanity of your soul in heaven. LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 05:14:33 AM 764 Views
See - that's one of those personal things SilverWarder - 02/09/2010 02:55:34 PM 976 Views
*shrug* it doesn't mean you aren't you. LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 03:26:56 PM 1032 Views
Perhaps so SilverWarder - 02/09/2010 05:24:33 PM 950 Views
I don't think that is off topic. Feel free to continue. *NM* Tashmere - 02/09/2010 07:08:54 PM 438 Views
No, but thanks for extending the offer LadyLorraine - 03/09/2010 04:32:31 AM 892 Views
I liked Sartre's take on it. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 02/09/2010 02:57:38 PM 485 Views
What is that? "Hell is other people at breakfast"? *NM* Tashmere - 02/09/2010 07:11:59 PM 456 Views
I'm not sure where the "at breakfast" comes from Sareitha Sedai - 02/09/2010 07:39:26 PM 751 Views
It has just been added on since then because it is so true and funny. Tashmere - 03/09/2010 05:16:43 AM 964 Views
Not simple, but I'll keep it very short Bramhodoulos - 02/09/2010 03:42:29 PM 946 Views
so everyone goes to hell? *NM* LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 04:33:05 PM 504 Views
That seems to be the conclusion if one agrees with my premises and line of thought, yes. *NM* Bramhodoulos - 02/09/2010 04:43:34 PM 398 Views
hmm. LadyLorraine - 02/09/2010 05:23:23 PM 935 Views
That is what it should so... Bramhodoulos - 02/09/2010 05:26:04 PM 835 Views
INB4 PERFECT SACRIFICE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD *NM* Ghavrel - 02/09/2010 08:44:33 PM 508 Views
Exaclty where I wanted to go! Bramhodoulos - 02/09/2010 08:59:55 PM 927 Views
Unless... what if we offered something equally perfect and infinitely valuable to make it even? Joel - 17/09/2010 05:04:39 AM 914 Views
...arrgh. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/09/2010 06:28:29 AM 480 Views
The time when one's responsibilities become Real. *NM* Panorphaeon - 02/09/2010 10:09:11 PM 493 Views
Eternal separation from the Creator. God'll give some what they wanted, but they won't like it. *NM* Zalis - 03/09/2010 05:53:57 PM 593 Views
As far as Hell itself, this. Joel - 17/09/2010 05:08:02 AM 880 Views
Your God sounds like a sadist. Ghavrel - 17/09/2010 05:12:17 AM 1133 Views
There's one HUGE string attached: Joel - 17/09/2010 05:29:24 AM 1006 Views
Avendesora - 17/09/2010 03:39:20 PM 890 Views
I promised Tash weeks ago I'd respond when I could. Joel - 18/09/2010 12:25:11 AM 803 Views
I don't get it. Ghavrel - 18/09/2010 06:31:33 AM 986 Views
My answer is the same as last time. I don't believe in hell. Avendesora - 17/09/2010 03:37:30 PM 910 Views
I have videoclips to answer that question. (beat.) - 27/09/2010 05:02:17 PM 994 Views
Also there's a very appropriate song! (beat.) - 27/09/2010 05:13:14 PM 909 Views
You have reminded me why I need to see that film again Camilla - 27/09/2010 05:55:13 PM 1019 Views
Tim didn't just dislike it, he said it was dumb. (beat.) - 27/09/2010 08:17:07 PM 1136 Views
Shocking Camilla - 27/09/2010 08:18:47 PM 1126 Views
You could use at least one of the URLs in our link option, ya know? ironclad - 28/09/2010 04:16:07 PM 909 Views
I CARE NOT A WHIT FOR YOUR LAZY WAYS, GERMAN. *NM* (beat.) - 28/09/2010 05:31:39 PM 438 Views
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