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Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM
If she still thinks it, but just doesn't say it... sure she won't be hurting people or publicly drawing their ire... but she'll still be thinking those things. A private homophobe instead of a public one. *shrug*

I think it would be better for her if she addressed why she thinks it's an insult to call someone a faggot, and work on that within herself.

2. To be in that march! There are some damn fine rugby players in your country, and some of their fans aren't too bad either. :winky: I'm sure some of those Gay SA marchers got to take home a questioning rugger. :D

I'll bet... and maybe some gay guys started rugby. It would be a mass conversion on every level lol.


Oooh... good point. :D When I visited your country, I met a trio of rugby playing brothers. We were at a BBQ (grilled boerwors are delicious) and there was a pool... rugby players jumping in and out of water all afternoon... it was all I could do not to stare. :shy:

3. A public apology is the beginning, hopefully she'll internalize the lesson. :)

People don't forget these things... it'll follow her around.


True, it will... but if she apologizes and then works to show she's learned by publicly sponsoring some queer event, or some such, it will get pushed down.
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Interesting way to bring people together Sidious - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 2217 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* Legolas - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 617 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1360 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 1051 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 1321 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 1409 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... Phelix - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1535 Views
or it just means... LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1458 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 1264 Views
your soul is your being LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 1317 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 1211 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). Legolas - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 1306 Views
I was trying to use her words... Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 1417 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 1242 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 1422 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. Legolas - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 1329 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 1306 Views
Entirely agree *NM* ironclad - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 691 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. Helene - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 1228 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 1384 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 1235 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... Phelix - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 1226 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 1422 Views
OK, I can see that. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 1324 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 1277 Views
I'm not assuming there's an underlying bad nature, I am saying she should look to see if it's there. Phelix - 08/09/2010 10:27:21 PM 1376 Views
And I'm saying that you're instantly looking on the negative side of things instead of Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:46:11 PM 1247 Views
I don't think I'm looking at the negative side of things, merely saying that she needs to look. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:01:11 PM 1311 Views
Or, she was replying to interview questions and thinking on her feet. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 11:10:26 PM 1356 Views
This is my first encounter with her. Phelix - 08/09/2010 11:24:42 PM 1510 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 1062 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 1364 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1636 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1463 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Sidious - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1689 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 1300 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up LadyLorraine - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 1184 Views
A concerted effort would do it... Phelix - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 1272 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that BlackAdder - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 1071 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" Delireus - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 1172 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* Colonel Logain - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 734 Views
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