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I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... Rebekah Send a noteboard - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM
... just because they used a word that's so frequently thrown around as an insult. Quite often good naturedly, especially in highly macho arenas like rugby fandom can be. The biggest insult that macho blokes can throw at other blokes is weakness, and that's the meaning that faggot most often has in those circles.

It's like calling someone an arsehole. You just say it, and most often don't mean it.

Yes, it is certainly becoming a horrible insult for homosexuals, but she probably heard it a lot from her older male relatives so it won't have that meaning for her.

The American influence really only became huge in the late 70s and early 80s. Faggot is a much older insult than that.


That's what I mean. So no, she doesn't need to "soul search". She needs to think before she speaks or tweets, or whatever. And she needs to remember the connotation the word has for most people around the world and not use it again. That's as far as it needs to go, IMO.
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Interesting way to bring people together - 08/09/2010 04:36:19 PM 1569 Views
That is priceless. Go Stephanie Rice! *NM* - 08/09/2010 04:38:27 PM 367 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 923 Views
omigod....what a ridiculous overreaction - 08/09/2010 04:55:55 PM 617 Views
1. That girl is an idiot who needs to do some soul searching... - 08/09/2010 07:07:47 PM 888 Views
? not that her comment was excusable... - 08/09/2010 07:45:59 PM 963 Views
It's not a cardinal sin against humanity... - 08/09/2010 07:55:55 PM 1089 Views
or it just means... - 08/09/2010 08:18:57 PM 1006 Views
Societal problems don't go away from the group level. - 08/09/2010 08:25:21 PM 844 Views
your soul is your being - 08/09/2010 08:43:18 PM 886 Views
Just because you search does not mean you re-evaluate. - 08/09/2010 08:45:31 PM 767 Views
You have an odd definition of homophobe (or at least that's what your last paragraph implies). - 08/09/2010 10:04:52 PM 843 Views
I was trying to use her words... - 08/09/2010 10:17:32 PM 911 Views
Ah, okay. Her apology does seem rather clumsy, agreed there. - 08/09/2010 11:05:34 PM 810 Views
Glad to clear up that confusion. - 08/09/2010 11:11:35 PM 988 Views
I don't think you should read too much in the exact wording of her apology. - 08/09/2010 11:24:21 PM 849 Views
I'm horrible for tearing into the meaning of words. - 08/09/2010 11:36:34 PM 825 Views
Entirely agree *NM* - 08/09/2010 10:46:12 PM 454 Views
You should watch that Southpark episode where they change the meaning of the word faggot. - 08/09/2010 09:24:16 PM 742 Views
I've seen it, and it was funny. - 08/09/2010 09:40:43 PM 925 Views
Suspect you need to consider the way the word is used in other countries. - 08/09/2010 09:46:05 PM 808 Views
I admit, I don't know many (any) kiwis personally (in person that is)... - 08/09/2010 09:52:45 PM 797 Views
The insult word for homosexuals Downunder tends to be Fruit or Queer. - 08/09/2010 09:58:04 PM 991 Views
OK, I can see that. - 08/09/2010 10:09:16 PM 862 Views
I think it's unfair to people to assume that there's some underlying bad nature... - 08/09/2010 10:18:29 PM 859 Views
Don't forget Poofta!! - 08/09/2010 10:57:00 PM 656 Views
Heh, I had forgotten that. - 08/09/2010 10:58:53 PM 866 Views
She said she needs to learn to think before she tweets lol - 08/09/2010 08:14:38 PM 1061 Views
Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:20:59 PM 1018 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:39:52 PM 1101 Views
Re: Yes, but that's just a surface change. - 08/09/2010 08:43:55 PM 869 Views
mm, i doubt that would make people shut up - 08/09/2010 08:44:29 PM 742 Views
A concerted effort would do it... - 08/09/2010 08:47:50 PM 813 Views
heh, it's pretty cool that everyone came together like that - 08/09/2010 10:52:50 PM 632 Views
"Just because a person is gay, mayor, doesn't mean he is a fag" - 09/09/2010 05:27:50 AM 723 Views
It was a very good game though, wasn't it? *NM* - 09/09/2010 12:56:33 PM 478 Views

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