I apologize - I don't want you to think I am accusing you of shredding anyone, so I'm editing.
I don't have anything nice to say, however, because I think it's exceedingly silly to assume that Joel has no "Mustang GT convertibles" in his life. Or that even if he does not, that his stance on HC is somehow invalid because he has posted things here that, iyo, prove that he's squandering his money. If it's invalid for its own sake, that's something else entirely.
We all know that the true problem here is that he disagrees with you on the entire health care issue, and I'm tired of the argument that if you are in favor of changes to the way these things are covered, you must be a lazy bastard who wants to keep all your money for the cell phones, big screen tvs, etc. Or the other lazy bastard who would rather do that with someone else's money. If you want to argue that the govt shouldn't make changes, then argue that and make a real case for it.
And yes, if he doesn't want to put himself in the middle of the fight, he shouldn't post here. I've already told him that. It just so happens that I know exactly what he's going through, since I'm in exactly the same boat. And with three jobs, I can't afford dental care either, because I have already got a couple GTs that I'm slowly working my way around. I fully intend to pay for my own shit when I get there, because I was raised that way -- it also happens that I think there are things that can be altered with the way we pay for insurance/health care/treatment/etc. Does that mean I've wasted all of my money and am now eager for some of yours? No. It means I have a brain that's allowed to believe different things than yours does. If you want the soapbox back to prove me wrong, that's fine. I'd prefer you didn't use it to dissect personal choices you haven't had to live through.
(I'm not trying to unlove you or Joe, I'm simply feel very strongly about the inevitable errors in trying to pick apart other people's "flaws." )
I don't have anything nice to say, however, because I think it's exceedingly silly to assume that Joel has no "Mustang GT convertibles" in his life. Or that even if he does not, that his stance on HC is somehow invalid because he has posted things here that, iyo, prove that he's squandering his money. If it's invalid for its own sake, that's something else entirely.
We all know that the true problem here is that he disagrees with you on the entire health care issue, and I'm tired of the argument that if you are in favor of changes to the way these things are covered, you must be a lazy bastard who wants to keep all your money for the cell phones, big screen tvs, etc. Or the other lazy bastard who would rather do that with someone else's money. If you want to argue that the govt shouldn't make changes, then argue that and make a real case for it.
And yes, if he doesn't want to put himself in the middle of the fight, he shouldn't post here. I've already told him that. It just so happens that I know exactly what he's going through, since I'm in exactly the same boat. And with three jobs, I can't afford dental care either, because I have already got a couple GTs that I'm slowly working my way around. I fully intend to pay for my own shit when I get there, because I was raised that way -- it also happens that I think there are things that can be altered with the way we pay for insurance/health care/treatment/etc. Does that mean I've wasted all of my money and am now eager for some of yours? No. It means I have a brain that's allowed to believe different things than yours does. If you want the soapbox back to prove me wrong, that's fine. I'd prefer you didn't use it to dissect personal choices you haven't had to live through.
(I'm not trying to unlove you or Joe, I'm simply feel very strongly about the inevitable errors in trying to pick apart other people's "flaws." )
This message last edited by nossy on 11/09/2010 at 08:58:22 AM
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09/09/2010 06:12:06 PM
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17 fillings? Do you ever go to the dentist? *NM*
09/09/2010 06:26:05 PM
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seriously. that's an insane number of fillings to have been putting off.
09/09/2010 06:28:09 PM
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This is the first time in my life I've had dental insurance.
09/09/2010 06:29:44 PM
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So in other words it's your own damn fault.
09/09/2010 07:34:43 PM
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"Not that expensive" is a big phrase.
10/09/2010 05:42:55 AM
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have you tried going to a dental school?
09/09/2010 07:36:15 PM
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Congratulations: You made the first constructive suggestion in the thread.
10/09/2010 05:37:51 AM
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well, I bet it wouldn't have cost you near so much if you hadn't kept putting it off.
09/09/2010 06:29:50 PM
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Yes, I was able to figure that out on my own.
09/09/2010 06:34:58 PM
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17? Wow... do you use cola as mouthwash? *NM*
09/09/2010 06:46:28 PM
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Dr. Pepper
09/09/2010 06:47:32 PM
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Re: Dr. Pepper
10/09/2010 07:05:06 PM
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A reasonable response; amazing how it doesn't make me foam at the mouth....
11/09/2010 04:02:10 PM
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would it save you money if they just ripped them all out and put in dentures instead? *NM*
09/09/2010 09:32:41 PM
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I feel so sorry for people who have to live in uncivilised countries.
10/09/2010 12:18:11 AM
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yes he will be moving to the land known for great dental care
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10/09/2010 01:01:37 AM
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I think I must have been channeling a drunken poet when I wrote that insult
10/09/2010 01:23:45 AM
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LOL A British person lecturing us about anything involving dental care.
10/09/2010 02:02:33 AM
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I love how I'm not the only one to remember very old Simpson episodes!
10/09/2010 03:58:41 AM
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When I posted regularly and prolifically that was kinda my thing.
10/09/2010 06:17:03 AM
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Where does that stereotype come from?
11/09/2010 04:52:41 PM
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Yeah, about that...
11/09/2010 09:31:11 PM
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America is fine. You just suck at it. *NM*
10/09/2010 12:29:48 AM
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Sorry for the national debt nearly as large as our GDP, falling standard of living and Iraq War.
10/09/2010 05:57:34 AM
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~shrugs~
10/09/2010 01:48:24 AM
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In this case I did without so I could get to work every day, and put my arm back in its socket.
10/09/2010 06:19:11 AM
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Your travel money would certainly have paid for a lot of dentistry. *NM*
10/09/2010 02:00:09 AM
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LITERATEDOG!!
10/09/2010 02:02:57 AM
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I was trying to go the Facebook route, but no one wants to debate anything there.
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10/09/2010 02:04:48 AM
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The only people that reply to you on Facebook are people who already like you and agree with you.
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10/09/2010 03:07:22 AM
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Not really.
10/09/2010 06:21:55 AM
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Oh, honey, I don't blame you for the Norway travel.
10/09/2010 06:35:10 AM
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Funny thing is I once would've agreed.
10/09/2010 08:47:34 AM
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Boohoo. You made your choices. You prioritized luxuries before dental care. Live with it.
10/09/2010 04:40:05 PM
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Joel opened himself up to this
10/09/2010 05:22:45 PM
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But it's all about his personal choices.
10/09/2010 05:33:42 PM
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A rather tangential point, but since you keep talking about what "you as a nation" pay for...
10/09/2010 06:07:10 PM
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I couldn't care less what his actual income is.
10/09/2010 06:16:41 PM
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IIRC, you think there's a huge pile of misspent money that should be returned to its owners.
11/09/2010 04:12:57 PM
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Yes.
10/09/2010 06:33:22 PM
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Whatever. Completely ignore my points because you want to hide behind the label "personal choice".
10/09/2010 11:13:02 PM
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.sorry, darlin'...
11/09/2010 03:40:24 AM
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and edit.
11/09/2010 07:23:41 AM
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"if you really work as much as you claim, then you must piss money away at an astounding rate" eh?
11/09/2010 03:49:58 PM
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And your comparison of a celebratory party to the basic right to marry itself is ludicrous.
10/09/2010 06:55:18 AM
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That's an unfortunate situation...
10/09/2010 05:10:01 PM
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*hugs* I'm glad you got it taken care of though, and glad to hear from you; been a little worried.
11/09/2010 04:34:31 PM
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