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It makes sense StarEnight Send a noteboard - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM
This issue is so difficult. I wouldn't strip her of her medal if they honestly didn't know *but* How could they not? The facial structure, flat chest, and complete lack of curves are all male characteristics even without a penis. I've seen women that are body builders and they still have some residual feminine characteristics that this individual is obviously lacking.

Her body's natural production of testosterone has the same effect as one of the other competitors taking steroids. It creates an unfair advantage. I think it would be wrong to let her records stand since they could only really be broken by another athlete with a similar medical condition. (btw nobody tell China or they will be implanting them)

Wow I thought internal testicles only happened on medical dramas.
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Caster Semenya has male sex organs and no womb or ovaries everynametaken - 11/09/2009 12:24:30 PM 1610 Views
I think revoking the championship and a ban at this point would be plain wrong LadyLorraine - 11/09/2009 02:01:15 PM 871 Views
Well said. Lupine - 11/09/2009 02:10:31 PM 856 Views
agreed. *NM* Avendesora - 11/09/2009 02:36:06 PM 436 Views
I agree. *NM* @my - 11/09/2009 03:20:05 PM 420 Views
I agree it's not her fault, but she shouldn't keep her championship. Aemon - 11/09/2009 03:50:06 PM 834 Views
Possibly a quibble, but just trying to clarify... Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 05:15:52 PM 938 Views
It makes sense StarEnight - 13/09/2009 05:04:23 PM 885 Views
I disagree Сталин - 11/09/2009 04:09:50 PM 1209 Views
As bad as if feel for the athlete, I agree. *NM* ironclad - 11/09/2009 04:46:57 PM 404 Views
Ditto. Assuming she never knew about it, which remains to be seen. *NM* Wibble - 11/09/2009 08:08:29 PM 384 Views
To the extent that LadyLorraine means "at this point", I do agree with her... Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 05:03:34 PM 924 Views
Sounds like she/he is more dude than chick..... trzaska2000 - 11/09/2009 02:42:33 PM 927 Views
not really. it only takes ONE mistake to cause her problems. LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:19:06 AM 863 Views
It's not that simple with DNA either. Legolas - 12/09/2009 10:38:28 AM 954 Views
no it's not as simple as "XX" and "XY" LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:02:03 PM 887 Views
I think it is a sad story random thoughts - 11/09/2009 04:34:29 PM 932 Views
I agree. everynametaken - 11/09/2009 09:20:35 PM 978 Views
I like I said, tragic random thoughts - 11/09/2009 09:34:57 PM 823 Views
I can't believe this whole thing is public Monkey - 11/09/2009 07:03:59 PM 959 Views
That's a good idea! Floffe - 11/09/2009 07:17:20 PM 867 Views
Yeah, seems fair. Medal, no record. Legolas - 11/09/2009 07:57:38 PM 810 Views
How could she not know something was different? Not developing a period would be a major sign. *NM* everynametaken - 11/09/2009 09:21:54 PM 401 Views
Not necessarily, depending on the rigors of her athletic training. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 11/09/2009 09:26:32 PM 375 Views
When do most girls get their first period? Around 12 or 13? everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:34:23 AM 790 Views
Yes, but 14 or 15 isn't out of the ordinary *NM* Floffe - 12/09/2009 11:23:09 AM 398 Views
I didn't start until I was 17 *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:02:28 PM 375 Views
That is a bit unusual. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 13/09/2009 01:17:18 AM 407 Views
starting THAT late is, yes LadyLorraine - 13/09/2009 04:24:44 AM 1047 Views
There are plenty of runners who do hard training that keeps them from getting a regular period Floffe - 11/09/2009 09:29:24 PM 896 Views
I'd say so too. Periods have a lot to do with % body fat. Lupine - 12/09/2009 12:28:46 AM 977 Views
Not at the age when a girl first develops her period. everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:36:24 AM 867 Views
You have an odd understanding of what's normal... Lupine - 12/09/2009 02:51:37 PM 887 Views
And you are still missing the point. everynametaken - 13/09/2009 01:18:54 AM 817 Views
And you're missing the point Sareitha Sedai - 13/09/2009 01:39:46 AM 847 Views
What Sareitha said. Lupine - 13/09/2009 03:50:05 AM 1001 Views
people develop 30lb tumors and never go to get them checked out random thoughts - 11/09/2009 09:36:18 PM 910 Views
Well, now that you put it that way I guess I could see that. *NM* everynametaken - 12/09/2009 07:37:18 AM 381 Views
Not that rare in athletes. Tashmere - 12/09/2009 01:06:27 AM 817 Views
like i said in my first post LadyLorraine - 12/09/2009 03:25:04 AM 893 Views
I like that idea. That is the most sensible solution. *NM* Tashmere - 12/09/2009 01:07:42 AM 363 Views
This whole thing has been handled disgracefully Sidious - 12/09/2009 12:37:35 PM 992 Views
Considering that similar questions have arisen before Sareitha Sedai - 13/09/2009 01:43:18 AM 1046 Views
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