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I don't think it's immoral at all. The contract usually specifies penalties for breach. Tom Send a noteboard - 12/10/2010 05:28:34 PM
The mortgage contract, as well as the promissory note for the mortgage, usually specify penalties for a breach. If you choose to breach the contract, you need to be ready to pay those penalties.

All the Fannie/Freddie-backed mortgages in the country say that the bank retains the right to come after you personally to the extent the collateral (your house) is insufficient to satisfy the loan. A lot of people, particularly in Florida, have found this out the hard way - they walked away from houses that were underwater, moved to other states and now have court judgments against them for the remainder.

Business contracts rarely have anything to do with morality - peoples' actions can, and their interaction with others can, but the actual transaction is just a transaction.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Is walking away from a mortgage immoral? - 12/10/2010 04:45:43 PM 1678 Views
Just as a contract is a two way street - - 12/10/2010 05:12:09 PM 1155 Views
do we have a moral obligation to society? - 12/10/2010 06:00:17 PM 1145 Views
It's a good question - 14/10/2010 02:41:21 AM 1048 Views
Sort of have to disagree... - 13/10/2010 02:52:07 AM 1143 Views
That's not true actually - 14/10/2010 02:35:43 AM 1031 Views
Of course it's immoral. - 12/10/2010 05:13:16 PM 1108 Views
But does one sided morality work? - 12/10/2010 05:38:56 PM 1227 Views
That's the only kind of morality there is! What the hell is wrong with you? - 12/10/2010 08:15:55 PM 1077 Views
nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 12/10/2010 09:34:33 PM 1057 Views
Re: nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 15/10/2010 02:50:49 PM 1560 Views
well I really can't argue with the wrong is wrong end of story belief system - 15/10/2010 05:40:22 PM 1266 Views
A contract isn't a promise; it's a legal agreement. *NM* - 12/10/2010 06:25:24 PM 525 Views
Which is why contracts have to be pages and pages long and combed over by bloodsucking lawyers. - 12/10/2010 06:39:18 PM 1083 Views
I would agree with you if contracts didn't provide for breaking them. - 12/10/2010 07:33:15 PM 940 Views
Hrm. - 12/10/2010 07:35:38 PM 1201 Views
It's not immoral to break the marriage contract. - 12/10/2010 08:19:50 PM 1205 Views
I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 08:37:52 PM 1116 Views
Re: I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 09:00:00 PM 1196 Views
also - 12/10/2010 09:37:38 PM 1074 Views
That makes no sense whatsoever. - 13/10/2010 11:38:06 PM 1221 Views
That must be why they have you sign something called an agreementory note *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:33:32 PM 584 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:58:25 PM 505 Views
So, you think bankruptcy laws are immoral? - 13/10/2010 12:18:43 AM 1099 Views
I don't think it's immoral at all. The contract usually specifies penalties for breach. - 12/10/2010 05:28:34 PM 1194 Views
I thought the answer might be something like that. *NM* - 12/10/2010 05:35:35 PM 498 Views
that is close to the way I see it - 12/10/2010 05:45:25 PM 1050 Views
It's both legal and immoral. - 12/10/2010 06:37:49 PM 1157 Views
You didn't mention the third party - 12/10/2010 08:26:56 PM 978 Views
in a way I did since I did mention society - 12/10/2010 08:54:07 PM 1129 Views
Thus the edit - 12/10/2010 09:10:53 PM 1138 Views
either way I think you made a good point *NM* - 12/10/2010 09:38:58 PM 480 Views
will those neighbors... - 14/10/2010 04:52:26 AM 1300 Views
All depends where you get your morals from, really. - 12/10/2010 08:28:41 PM 1113 Views
I guess what i was trying to ask, at least in part - 12/10/2010 09:48:24 PM 1131 Views
What if you look at it from the other perspective? - 12/10/2010 09:00:20 PM 1156 Views
do you think they would if they had a legal way to do it? - 12/10/2010 10:04:57 PM 1100 Views
Good point. *NM* - 12/10/2010 11:10:26 PM 527 Views
Sure, you could do that. - 13/10/2010 01:54:55 AM 1146 Views
Much like the concept of morality itself. - 12/10/2010 11:47:23 PM 1045 Views
I find this line particularly interesting. - 13/10/2010 12:13:18 AM 1090 Views
Dunno. - 13/10/2010 12:56:56 AM 1195 Views
As a professional in financial services - no, it is not. - 13/10/2010 01:44:18 AM 1096 Views
but almost nobody sees it that way - 13/10/2010 12:53:25 PM 1073 Views
Is the deal that if you default, the bank gets the house and nothing else, though? - 13/10/2010 02:40:48 PM 1081 Views
yes but the bank has a limited ability to collect - 13/10/2010 02:47:34 PM 1005 Views
I think it's morally wrong to walk away from credit card debt. *NM* - 13/10/2010 09:43:11 PM 496 Views
I'm curious how you reconcile that - 13/10/2010 09:47:59 PM 1112 Views
Collateral - 19/10/2010 07:21:14 PM 1600 Views
I agree, what do you think is different? - 13/10/2010 09:59:36 PM 1079 Views
I lost sleep over it, but I did it anyway. - 13/10/2010 05:24:19 AM 1182 Views
OK what if you take it a step further - 13/10/2010 03:44:30 PM 1184 Views
Good question - 14/10/2010 05:13:41 AM 1161 Views
I have some questions about this issue. - 13/10/2010 08:14:37 AM 1114 Views
how do those questions affect the morality of the situation? - 13/10/2010 03:20:14 PM 1041 Views
Obviously, the essential difference is can't pay versus won't pay. - 13/10/2010 02:16:07 PM 1054 Views
are you socializing your debt when it is a private bank? - 13/10/2010 03:14:48 PM 1121 Views
You are when said bank requires a bailout. And very many of them do. - 13/10/2010 03:22:59 PM 1058 Views
it is the home fault that the banks have to be bailed out - 13/10/2010 03:49:37 PM 1137 Views
I believe it immoral to do harm. - 13/10/2010 04:38:28 PM 1150 Views
I really don't understand a system where this could be an advantage. - 13/10/2010 11:16:57 PM 1080 Views
There's generally something like a 7 or 10 year limit on credit reporting here. - 13/10/2010 11:46:58 PM 1105 Views
What's the use of suing someone who has no money? *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:48:47 PM 567 Views
You can garnish their wages. - 13/10/2010 11:49:36 PM 1075 Views
With parsley? - 13/10/2010 11:51:37 PM 1145 Views
No, "someone" most certainly did not, wicked young Miss! Hmph! *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:52:40 PM 543 Views
If they suddenly come into some, you're entitled to it. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:07:34 AM 619 Views
Bit of a long shot. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:09:12 AM 504 Views
Very. Best to cover your bases though. *NM* - 14/10/2010 10:04:25 PM 523 Views
Not if the doctrine of election applies. - 14/10/2010 10:14:07 PM 1056 Views
Are we not talking about credit companies going after people who owe them money? - 14/10/2010 10:18:47 PM 1103 Views
Yeah, I guess we are. - 14/10/2010 10:28:40 PM 1129 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 03:09:18 AM 1087 Views
I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:03:23 AM 1189 Views
Re: I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:49:24 PM 1441 Views
it is easy for me and others to be glib when it is just a theory *NM* - 14/10/2010 08:19:16 PM 500 Views

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