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but almost nobody sees it that way random thoughts Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 12:53:25 PM
I have had this discussion with people and the RL and the overwhelming consensus is it is morally wrong to walk away from a debt you have the ability to pay. I even pointed out the interest rate they were was a risk fee. You are paying the bank for the to take the risk that you will not pay them back but it is still seen as wrong to make the bank take the loss.
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Is walking away from a mortgage immoral? - 12/10/2010 04:45:43 PM 1467 Views
Just as a contract is a two way street - - 12/10/2010 05:12:09 PM 972 Views
do we have a moral obligation to society? - 12/10/2010 06:00:17 PM 963 Views
It's a good question - 14/10/2010 02:41:21 AM 871 Views
Sort of have to disagree... - 13/10/2010 02:52:07 AM 931 Views
That's not true actually - 14/10/2010 02:35:43 AM 863 Views
Of course it's immoral. - 12/10/2010 05:13:16 PM 931 Views
But does one sided morality work? - 12/10/2010 05:38:56 PM 1057 Views
That's the only kind of morality there is! What the hell is wrong with you? - 12/10/2010 08:15:55 PM 876 Views
nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 12/10/2010 09:34:33 PM 883 Views
Re: nothing wrong with me but I think you are off your meds again - 15/10/2010 02:50:49 PM 1377 Views
well I really can't argue with the wrong is wrong end of story belief system - 15/10/2010 05:40:22 PM 1075 Views
A contract isn't a promise; it's a legal agreement. *NM* - 12/10/2010 06:25:24 PM 438 Views
Which is why contracts have to be pages and pages long and combed over by bloodsucking lawyers. - 12/10/2010 06:39:18 PM 922 Views
I would agree with you if contracts didn't provide for breaking them. - 12/10/2010 07:33:15 PM 769 Views
Hrm. - 12/10/2010 07:35:38 PM 977 Views
It's not immoral to break the marriage contract. - 12/10/2010 08:19:50 PM 1034 Views
I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 08:37:52 PM 945 Views
Re: I don't see that as the flaw in my logic. - 12/10/2010 09:00:00 PM 1025 Views
also - 12/10/2010 09:37:38 PM 885 Views
That makes no sense whatsoever. - 13/10/2010 11:38:06 PM 1005 Views
That must be why they have you sign something called an agreementory note *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:33:32 PM 459 Views
Exactly *NM* - 12/10/2010 07:58:25 PM 426 Views
So, you think bankruptcy laws are immoral? - 13/10/2010 12:18:43 AM 911 Views
I don't think it's immoral at all. The contract usually specifies penalties for breach. - 12/10/2010 05:28:34 PM 1024 Views
I thought the answer might be something like that. *NM* - 12/10/2010 05:35:35 PM 408 Views
that is close to the way I see it - 12/10/2010 05:45:25 PM 861 Views
It's both legal and immoral. - 12/10/2010 06:37:49 PM 949 Views
You didn't mention the third party - 12/10/2010 08:26:56 PM 798 Views
in a way I did since I did mention society - 12/10/2010 08:54:07 PM 939 Views
Thus the edit - 12/10/2010 09:10:53 PM 974 Views
either way I think you made a good point *NM* - 12/10/2010 09:38:58 PM 406 Views
will those neighbors... - 14/10/2010 04:52:26 AM 1073 Views
All depends where you get your morals from, really. - 12/10/2010 08:28:41 PM 931 Views
I guess what i was trying to ask, at least in part - 12/10/2010 09:48:24 PM 896 Views
What if you look at it from the other perspective? - 12/10/2010 09:00:20 PM 945 Views
do you think they would if they had a legal way to do it? - 12/10/2010 10:04:57 PM 925 Views
Good point. *NM* - 12/10/2010 11:10:26 PM 426 Views
Sure, you could do that. - 13/10/2010 01:54:55 AM 954 Views
Much like the concept of morality itself. - 12/10/2010 11:47:23 PM 866 Views
I find this line particularly interesting. - 13/10/2010 12:13:18 AM 893 Views
Dunno. - 13/10/2010 12:56:56 AM 993 Views
As a professional in financial services - no, it is not. - 13/10/2010 01:44:18 AM 904 Views
but almost nobody sees it that way - 13/10/2010 12:53:25 PM 893 Views
Is the deal that if you default, the bank gets the house and nothing else, though? - 13/10/2010 02:40:48 PM 888 Views
yes but the bank has a limited ability to collect - 13/10/2010 02:47:34 PM 805 Views
I think it's morally wrong to walk away from credit card debt. *NM* - 13/10/2010 09:43:11 PM 415 Views
I'm curious how you reconcile that - 13/10/2010 09:47:59 PM 917 Views
Collateral - 19/10/2010 07:21:14 PM 1417 Views
I agree, what do you think is different? - 13/10/2010 09:59:36 PM 916 Views
I lost sleep over it, but I did it anyway. - 13/10/2010 05:24:19 AM 986 Views
OK what if you take it a step further - 13/10/2010 03:44:30 PM 940 Views
Good question - 14/10/2010 05:13:41 AM 960 Views
I have some questions about this issue. - 13/10/2010 08:14:37 AM 920 Views
how do those questions affect the morality of the situation? - 13/10/2010 03:20:14 PM 862 Views
Obviously, the essential difference is can't pay versus won't pay. - 13/10/2010 02:16:07 PM 872 Views
are you socializing your debt when it is a private bank? - 13/10/2010 03:14:48 PM 944 Views
You are when said bank requires a bailout. And very many of them do. - 13/10/2010 03:22:59 PM 888 Views
it is the home fault that the banks have to be bailed out - 13/10/2010 03:49:37 PM 937 Views
I believe it immoral to do harm. - 13/10/2010 04:38:28 PM 962 Views
I really don't understand a system where this could be an advantage. - 13/10/2010 11:16:57 PM 899 Views
There's generally something like a 7 or 10 year limit on credit reporting here. - 13/10/2010 11:46:58 PM 915 Views
What's the use of suing someone who has no money? *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:48:47 PM 475 Views
You can garnish their wages. - 13/10/2010 11:49:36 PM 901 Views
With parsley? - 13/10/2010 11:51:37 PM 958 Views
No, "someone" most certainly did not, wicked young Miss! Hmph! *NM* - 13/10/2010 11:52:40 PM 462 Views
If they suddenly come into some, you're entitled to it. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:07:34 AM 541 Views
Bit of a long shot. *NM* - 14/10/2010 12:09:12 AM 406 Views
Very. Best to cover your bases though. *NM* - 14/10/2010 10:04:25 PM 426 Views
Not if the doctrine of election applies. - 14/10/2010 10:14:07 PM 870 Views
Are we not talking about credit companies going after people who owe them money? - 14/10/2010 10:18:47 PM 919 Views
Yeah, I guess we are. - 14/10/2010 10:28:40 PM 952 Views
Re: - 14/10/2010 03:09:18 AM 907 Views
I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:03:23 AM 1011 Views
Re: I am currently in that situation... - 14/10/2010 05:49:24 PM 1233 Views
it is easy for me and others to be glib when it is just a theory *NM* - 14/10/2010 08:19:16 PM 415 Views

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