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Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. Joel Send a noteboard - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM
Unfortunately it's not the kind of question I can answer while racing to bed, other than to say, "substance" isn't the word I'd use, since it has material connotations "spiritual" precludes. Hence your philosophy books referencing "matter" the spiritual is not material, which is why the serious answers you're getting from materialists basically boil down to "no. " There's a conceit that says anything that exists is material, but that's far from given, and there's a great deal of evidence (such as this discussion) to the contrary. But any more will have to wait until at least tomorrow or the next day; I have to leave for work again in 7.5 hours.
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Do you think there's some kind of spiritual substance in the universe? - 14/09/2009 02:42:22 PM 962 Views
no, it is mostly hydrogen *NM* - 14/09/2009 02:43:47 PM 304 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 03:01:32 PM 288 Views
not a chance *NM* - 14/09/2009 03:23:02 PM 290 Views
yes (in as much that we could choose to define it that way) - 14/09/2009 03:31:40 PM 787 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 05:14:33 PM 290 Views
Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? - 14/09/2009 05:27:09 PM 706 Views
Re: Wouldn't spiritual and substance be mutually exclusive? - 14/09/2009 06:20:45 PM 695 Views
I think there is definitely a spiritual force that underlies the unity of all things - 14/09/2009 06:11:01 PM 734 Views
That sounds very like gnosticism in many ways. - 18/09/2009 12:17:51 PM 749 Views
No. *NM* - 14/09/2009 07:06:59 PM 281 Views
define "spiritual'. - 14/09/2009 07:36:18 PM 664 Views
Rum. - 14/09/2009 08:25:46 PM 708 Views
YES! *NM* - 16/09/2009 02:10:55 PM 312 Views
How are we not married? *NM* - 19/09/2009 04:10:13 AM 289 Views
Bigamy laws. *NM* - 19/09/2009 03:49:59 PM 290 Views
My Achilles heel! *NM* - 19/09/2009 07:30:06 PM 296 Views
Timing *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:51:37 PM 289 Views
My Achilles ankle! *NM* - 21/09/2009 08:14:42 PM 304 Views
Your Face. *NM* - 21/09/2009 08:21:44 PM 293 Views
My Achilles face! - 07/10/2009 09:40:36 PM 612 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 09:09:16 PM 270 Views
No *NM* - 14/09/2009 09:31:14 PM 291 Views
Yes, vodka. *NM* - 14/09/2009 10:02:19 PM 276 Views
Substance? - 14/09/2009 10:08:04 PM 677 Views
Yeah, boobs. - 15/09/2009 01:51:44 AM 664 Views
Not the way I'd put it, as jh notes, but unquestionably. - 15/09/2009 03:17:22 PM 693 Views
Look, don't put words in my mouth. - 15/09/2009 04:50:13 PM 739 Views
Sorry. - 15/09/2009 05:14:10 PM 653 Views
Re: Sorry. - 17/09/2009 09:20:58 PM 631 Views
People over-complicate this, it's a sort of animal abuse - 15/09/2009 09:03:01 PM 694 Views
Nicely put. *NM* - 17/09/2009 01:57:44 AM 269 Views
Very nicely put. *NM* - 17/09/2009 06:57:57 PM 265 Views
A sublte nuance most modern materialists miss. - 18/09/2009 12:21:33 PM 911 Views
I think there may be platonic forms defining purpose - 16/09/2009 06:27:36 AM 611 Views
The material universe precludes a purely natural cause. - 18/09/2009 12:04:16 PM 810 Views
One little correction - 20/09/2009 12:34:13 AM 792 Views
Nay. - 20/09/2009 07:04:47 AM 637 Views
Re: Nay. - 07/10/2009 11:55:28 AM 749 Views

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