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Those worldviews are unsupported by empirical evidence. Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 01/12/2010 01:41:27 AM
Several worldviews assert that the universe or a creator thereof does possess human qualities. Tom's entire point is that the discovery of extraterristrial life provides justification toward framing this universal tendency towards biogenesis in non-physical terms--not, as you accuse him of, characterizing the cosmos in such a manner as an axiom.


The discovery of extraterrestrial life does not, objectively, provide any justification for anthropomorphizing the universe. Adding human qualities to the universe solely as an explanation for alien life violates Occam's Razor. Explanations exist which do not require adding those qualities, and further, there is no other indication that those qualities exist, so they would have to be added in a manner consistent with every other observation that did not identify or require them. Given all of this, it's much more likely that someone who sees evidence of alien life as support for an anthropomorphic universe is selectively interpreting the evidence to support his preexisting bias toward such a universe.

Also, as an additional comment on Tom's post, the existence of some form of alien life is very far from the existence of sentient life, and the suggestion that life in any environment would tend toward sentience demonstrates a misunderstanding of evolution.
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Is NASA set to reveal on Thursday signs of possible extraterrestial life within the solar system? - 30/11/2010 03:49:40 AM 1294 Views
Interesting. - 30/11/2010 04:43:15 AM 723 Views
crap! I will be watching this! - 30/11/2010 05:04:58 AM 878 Views
Goddammit Wikileaks get on this *NM* - 30/11/2010 05:05:19 AM 367 Views
There's no one to smear, why would wikileaks be interested? *NM* - 30/11/2010 01:45:58 PM 353 Views
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Seems to put atheists in a bit of a catch-22 there. - 30/11/2010 05:54:25 AM 928 Views
Bwa? - 30/11/2010 06:45:33 AM 814 Views
Sorry, yeah. That is not my position. - 30/11/2010 07:03:17 AM 804 Views
The best will be when we find other intelligent life - 30/11/2010 02:32:35 PM 714 Views
Well, I don't actually agree with the first part of your Catch-22. At least, not entirely. - 30/11/2010 02:43:13 PM 848 Views
Using anthropomorphic terms to describe the universe only reflects on you, not on the universe. *NM* - 30/11/2010 07:31:04 PM 362 Views
What an arbitrary and meaningless statement. *NM* - 30/11/2010 07:52:13 PM 304 Views
Anthropomorphizing concepts is a cognitive bias. - 30/11/2010 11:19:23 PM 718 Views
Only given a certain metaphysical framework. - 01/12/2010 12:18:09 AM 762 Views
Mind dumbing that down a bit? - 01/12/2010 12:43:47 AM 715 Views
I think he is saying - 01/12/2010 01:26:34 AM 890 Views
That ain't not a lot simpler - 01/12/2010 01:35:38 AM 835 Views
Yes. - 01/12/2010 01:44:41 AM 790 Views
Those worldviews are unsupported by empirical evidence. - 01/12/2010 01:41:27 AM 916 Views
No worldviews are supported by empirical evidence. *NM* - 01/12/2010 01:57:23 AM 345 Views
Empiricism is unsupported by empirical evidence. *NM* - 01/12/2010 02:21:52 AM 308 Views
Empirical evidence is the only objective standard. - 01/12/2010 02:59:18 AM 763 Views
Empirical evidence cannot fully explain reality. - 01/12/2010 03:28:41 AM 868 Views
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Yes. I know what empiricism is. - 01/12/2010 05:17:05 AM 1063 Views
Re: You are a smart person. - 01/12/2010 03:09:13 AM 746 Views
Thanks. - 01/12/2010 03:30:46 AM 983 Views
Interesting. I agree with what you're saying, actually. - 30/11/2010 07:49:51 PM 691 Views
It won't change the argument in the least. - 01/12/2010 05:26:16 AM 880 Views
I have the feeling it's probably not going to be that. - 30/11/2010 06:02:48 AM 770 Views
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noooo! - 30/11/2010 10:19:27 AM 687 Views
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I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:35:04 PM 317 Views
"I, for one, welcome our new INSECT overlords"! - 01/12/2010 12:40:27 AM 770 Views
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I'll not bow to any mere Bacterial Overlords, Eukaryote Overlords only!!! *NM* - 01/12/2010 01:02:20 AM 328 Views
So you're prejudiced against the nuclearly challenged? - 01/12/2010 01:09:57 AM 724 Views
Down right genocidal toward them - 01/12/2010 01:31:47 AM 711 Views
Genocide is a bit extreme - 01/12/2010 02:13:18 AM 727 Views
They had better have a green man *NM* - 30/11/2010 10:45:56 AM 296 Views
Because you need somebody to attack Aginor and Balthamel? *NM* - 01/12/2010 01:04:23 AM 300 Views
Oh no you didn't *NM* - 01/12/2010 01:14:55 AM 296 Views
Seriously. - 01/12/2010 01:26:54 AM 688 Views
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I'm actually a tiny bit giddy about this. *NM* - 01/12/2010 01:04:49 AM 303 Views
Re: Arsenic. *NM* - 01/12/2010 02:09:51 AM 315 Views
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