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I really don't understand why people defend the forced purchase aspect Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/12/2010 08:22:03 PM
It seems weird anyone would accuse him of judicial activism for pointing out that this would give unlimited power. There's no legal difference between the gov't forcing you to buy health insurance and forcing you to buy a shotgun, and I'd think the analogy would hold, if one is trying to make healthcare a right, like gun ownership is, then the parallel would be demanding we all subsidize people's handgun and rifle purchases and force everyone to buy guns, or similarly as free speech is a right, making people buy newspapers. I can't think of any legal reason why forced insurance purchase would be okay but those aren't, and heck, guns and newspapers are a lot cheaper then health care insurance.
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Federal judge in Va. strikes down health care law - trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 05:21:37 PM 1090 Views
*yawn* Macharius - 13/12/2010 05:46:58 PM 759 Views
Another step closer to SCOTUS.....and that will be 5-4 decision in favor of repeal! *NM* trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 05:55:54 PM 294 Views
It may very well end up that way. *NM* Tom - 13/12/2010 07:09:36 PM 327 Views
So riddle me this... Dannymac - 13/12/2010 07:23:14 PM 745 Views
He's not "making his own law", just denying the government the ability to..... trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 08:06:48 PM 719 Views
That wasn't my question. Dannymac - 13/12/2010 09:10:39 PM 811 Views
I get what you're saying... Jeordam - 13/12/2010 11:30:13 PM 811 Views
Re: I get what you're saying... rempires - 14/12/2010 01:34:13 AM 833 Views
*heh* Jeordam - 14/12/2010 04:01:35 PM 753 Views
That's not all they're saying, though. Dannymac - 14/12/2010 01:42:27 AM 701 Views
At least in my mind.... Jeordam - 14/12/2010 04:10:38 PM 715 Views
Agreed; when do I get a refund for my share of the B2 bomber? Joel - 14/12/2010 04:40:25 AM 743 Views
But see...you are using the B2 bomber. Jeordam - 14/12/2010 03:59:27 PM 673 Views
Much as you are using the healthcare system. Joel - 14/12/2010 05:55:40 PM 795 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 14/12/2010 06:09:42 PM 775 Views
Again we're back to whether individuals deign to tolerate majority rule. Joel - 14/12/2010 07:27:22 PM 883 Views
Re: So riddle me this... everynametaken - 14/12/2010 02:51:35 AM 722 Views
It's judicial review Ava - 14/12/2010 02:47:43 PM 764 Views
Re: It's judicial review Macharius - 14/12/2010 03:27:28 PM 744 Views
Re: It's judicial review Ava - 15/12/2010 05:35:17 PM 862 Views
I really don't understand why people defend the forced purchase aspect Isaac - 13/12/2010 08:22:03 PM 789 Views
This analogy no doubt has its flaws too, but I was just reminded of it... Legolas - 13/12/2010 08:52:31 PM 800 Views
That's precisely the logic, yes. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:31:44 AM 755 Views
Forced insurance purchase would indeed be terribly unconstitutional. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:26:27 AM 712 Views
This judge... Dreaded Anomaly - 13/12/2010 11:26:09 PM 795 Views
there is a major problem with this.. rempires - 14/12/2010 01:29:41 AM 754 Views
Bad analogy..... trzaska2000 - 14/12/2010 02:57:28 AM 713 Views
Re: Bad analogy..... rempires - 14/12/2010 03:23:31 AM 722 Views
Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... trzaska2000 - 14/12/2010 03:42:26 AM 711 Views
Re: Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... rempires - 14/12/2010 04:53:39 AM 729 Views
Just to note.... Jeordam - 14/12/2010 06:11:57 PM 718 Views
Re: Just to note.... Macharius - 14/12/2010 06:44:54 PM 713 Views
Re: Just to note.... rempires - 14/12/2010 08:32:46 PM 711 Views
yeah, but the courts exist to strike down dumb legislation, which is what this ruling does moondog - 14/12/2010 03:17:04 AM 675 Views
No, the courts exist to interpret legislation, and the SCOTUS to strike down illegal legislation. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:36:59 AM 695 Views
I'll excerpt some relevant passages, but the full article is in the link. Macharius - 14/12/2010 02:10:48 PM 869 Views
In other words there may be a painful silver lining. Joel - 14/12/2010 07:46:38 PM 640 Views
He partially owns the lobby aiming to make it unconstitutional, which the plaintiff was a client of *NM* Jragghen - 14/12/2010 05:35:21 PM 366 Views
Update: the judge's decision is basically nonsense. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/12/2010 08:04:27 PM 973 Views
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