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Re: I get what you're saying... rempires Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 01:34:13 AM
Try looking at the bright side, if there is ever a draft just make sure to talk about your sexuality and claim your gay, republicans own arguments support the fact that they can't draft you then :)

Federal Judge, an appointee, makes a ruling against a law set in place by democratically elected government. In the past, (DADT, Prop. 8 ) this has ALWAYS earned the Judge your ire, supposedly not concerning what they were ruling, but because of what they were doing. Being an "Activist Judge," I think is the popular right-wing term.

So you're gonna go ahead and say that Judges DO have the right to make rulings like this, so long as you agree with the ruling?


About activist judges and all that. I really do. Consider this however, in both of the examples that you brought up (DADT, Prop. 8 ) those dealt with people where there was an option to action.

If you're in the military, you can choose to or not choose to talk about your sexuality.

If you have another individual in your life, do you or don't you want to get married.

The big...the very big...difference in this case is that there is no option. The government is saying "You will buy health insurance, or you will suck huge fines". That is wrong. The government has no such authority over my life to force me to buy something.

~Jeordam
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Federal judge in Va. strikes down health care law - trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 05:21:37 PM 1052 Views
*yawn* Macharius - 13/12/2010 05:46:58 PM 714 Views
Another step closer to SCOTUS.....and that will be 5-4 decision in favor of repeal! *NM* trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 05:55:54 PM 277 Views
It may very well end up that way. *NM* Tom - 13/12/2010 07:09:36 PM 311 Views
So riddle me this... Dannymac - 13/12/2010 07:23:14 PM 702 Views
He's not "making his own law", just denying the government the ability to..... trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 08:06:48 PM 669 Views
That wasn't my question. Dannymac - 13/12/2010 09:10:39 PM 767 Views
I get what you're saying... Jeordam - 13/12/2010 11:30:13 PM 767 Views
Re: I get what you're saying... rempires - 14/12/2010 01:34:13 AM 791 Views
*heh* Jeordam - 14/12/2010 04:01:35 PM 706 Views
That's not all they're saying, though. Dannymac - 14/12/2010 01:42:27 AM 655 Views
At least in my mind.... Jeordam - 14/12/2010 04:10:38 PM 672 Views
Agreed; when do I get a refund for my share of the B2 bomber? Joel - 14/12/2010 04:40:25 AM 698 Views
But see...you are using the B2 bomber. Jeordam - 14/12/2010 03:59:27 PM 630 Views
Much as you are using the healthcare system. Joel - 14/12/2010 05:55:40 PM 748 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 14/12/2010 06:09:42 PM 725 Views
Again we're back to whether individuals deign to tolerate majority rule. Joel - 14/12/2010 07:27:22 PM 840 Views
Re: So riddle me this... everynametaken - 14/12/2010 02:51:35 AM 675 Views
It's judicial review Ava - 14/12/2010 02:47:43 PM 720 Views
Re: It's judicial review Macharius - 14/12/2010 03:27:28 PM 695 Views
Re: It's judicial review Ava - 15/12/2010 05:35:17 PM 795 Views
I really don't understand why people defend the forced purchase aspect Isaac - 13/12/2010 08:22:03 PM 742 Views
This analogy no doubt has its flaws too, but I was just reminded of it... Legolas - 13/12/2010 08:52:31 PM 752 Views
That's precisely the logic, yes. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:31:44 AM 710 Views
Forced insurance purchase would indeed be terribly unconstitutional. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:26:27 AM 668 Views
This judge... Dreaded Anomaly - 13/12/2010 11:26:09 PM 748 Views
there is a major problem with this.. rempires - 14/12/2010 01:29:41 AM 708 Views
Bad analogy..... trzaska2000 - 14/12/2010 02:57:28 AM 667 Views
Re: Bad analogy..... rempires - 14/12/2010 03:23:31 AM 679 Views
Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... trzaska2000 - 14/12/2010 03:42:26 AM 666 Views
Re: Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... rempires - 14/12/2010 04:53:39 AM 679 Views
Just to note.... Jeordam - 14/12/2010 06:11:57 PM 677 Views
Re: Just to note.... Macharius - 14/12/2010 06:44:54 PM 665 Views
Re: Just to note.... rempires - 14/12/2010 08:32:46 PM 665 Views
yeah, but the courts exist to strike down dumb legislation, which is what this ruling does moondog - 14/12/2010 03:17:04 AM 628 Views
No, the courts exist to interpret legislation, and the SCOTUS to strike down illegal legislation. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:36:59 AM 644 Views
I'll excerpt some relevant passages, but the full article is in the link. Macharius - 14/12/2010 02:10:48 PM 818 Views
In other words there may be a painful silver lining. Joel - 14/12/2010 07:46:38 PM 592 Views
He partially owns the lobby aiming to make it unconstitutional, which the plaintiff was a client of *NM* Jragghen - 14/12/2010 05:35:21 PM 342 Views
Update: the judge's decision is basically nonsense. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/12/2010 08:04:27 PM 921 Views
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