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Agreed; when do I get a refund for my share of the B2 bomber? Joel Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 04:40:25 AM
Federal Judge, an appointee, makes a ruling against a law set in place by democratically elected government. In the past, (DADT, Prop. 8 ) this has ALWAYS earned the Judge your ire, supposedly not concerning what they were ruling, but because of what they were doing. Being an "Activist Judge," I think is the popular right-wing term.

So you're gonna go ahead and say that Judges DO have the right to make rulings like this, so long as you agree with the ruling?


About activist judges and all that. I really do. Consider this however, in both of the examples that you brought up (DADT, Prop. 8 ) those dealt with people where there was an option to action.

If you're in the military, you can choose to or not choose to talk about your sexuality.

If you have another individual in your life, do you or don't you want to get married.

The big...the very big...difference in this case is that there is no option. The government is saying "You will buy health insurance, or you will suck huge fines". That is wrong. The government has no such authority over my life to force me to buy something.

~Jeordam

I'm guessing the answer is "never". Of course, I did have the option of not contributing; I'd be in prison, but all I had to do was not pay my illegal unconstitutional taxes. ;)

It's a crappy provision. However much you or I dislike it, however, I don't believe it's illegal.
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Federal judge in Va. strikes down health care law - trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 05:21:37 PM 1054 Views
*yawn* Macharius - 13/12/2010 05:46:58 PM 716 Views
Another step closer to SCOTUS.....and that will be 5-4 decision in favor of repeal! *NM* trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 05:55:54 PM 277 Views
It may very well end up that way. *NM* Tom - 13/12/2010 07:09:36 PM 311 Views
So riddle me this... Dannymac - 13/12/2010 07:23:14 PM 702 Views
He's not "making his own law", just denying the government the ability to..... trzaska2000 - 13/12/2010 08:06:48 PM 670 Views
That wasn't my question. Dannymac - 13/12/2010 09:10:39 PM 769 Views
I get what you're saying... Jeordam - 13/12/2010 11:30:13 PM 768 Views
Re: I get what you're saying... rempires - 14/12/2010 01:34:13 AM 792 Views
*heh* Jeordam - 14/12/2010 04:01:35 PM 708 Views
That's not all they're saying, though. Dannymac - 14/12/2010 01:42:27 AM 656 Views
At least in my mind.... Jeordam - 14/12/2010 04:10:38 PM 673 Views
Agreed; when do I get a refund for my share of the B2 bomber? Joel - 14/12/2010 04:40:25 AM 700 Views
But see...you are using the B2 bomber. Jeordam - 14/12/2010 03:59:27 PM 630 Views
Much as you are using the healthcare system. Joel - 14/12/2010 05:55:40 PM 749 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 14/12/2010 06:09:42 PM 726 Views
Again we're back to whether individuals deign to tolerate majority rule. Joel - 14/12/2010 07:27:22 PM 842 Views
Re: So riddle me this... everynametaken - 14/12/2010 02:51:35 AM 677 Views
It's judicial review Ava - 14/12/2010 02:47:43 PM 722 Views
Re: It's judicial review Macharius - 14/12/2010 03:27:28 PM 697 Views
Re: It's judicial review Ava - 15/12/2010 05:35:17 PM 797 Views
I really don't understand why people defend the forced purchase aspect Isaac - 13/12/2010 08:22:03 PM 743 Views
This analogy no doubt has its flaws too, but I was just reminded of it... Legolas - 13/12/2010 08:52:31 PM 754 Views
That's precisely the logic, yes. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:31:44 AM 711 Views
Forced insurance purchase would indeed be terribly unconstitutional. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:26:27 AM 668 Views
This judge... Dreaded Anomaly - 13/12/2010 11:26:09 PM 750 Views
there is a major problem with this.. rempires - 14/12/2010 01:29:41 AM 710 Views
Bad analogy..... trzaska2000 - 14/12/2010 02:57:28 AM 669 Views
Re: Bad analogy..... rempires - 14/12/2010 03:23:31 AM 681 Views
Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... trzaska2000 - 14/12/2010 03:42:26 AM 668 Views
Re: Not everyone uses the HC system and many can pay for it without insurance..... rempires - 14/12/2010 04:53:39 AM 681 Views
Just to note.... Jeordam - 14/12/2010 06:11:57 PM 677 Views
Re: Just to note.... Macharius - 14/12/2010 06:44:54 PM 667 Views
Re: Just to note.... rempires - 14/12/2010 08:32:46 PM 667 Views
yeah, but the courts exist to strike down dumb legislation, which is what this ruling does moondog - 14/12/2010 03:17:04 AM 630 Views
No, the courts exist to interpret legislation, and the SCOTUS to strike down illegal legislation. Joel - 14/12/2010 04:36:59 AM 646 Views
I'll excerpt some relevant passages, but the full article is in the link. Macharius - 14/12/2010 02:10:48 PM 819 Views
In other words there may be a painful silver lining. Joel - 14/12/2010 07:46:38 PM 593 Views
He partially owns the lobby aiming to make it unconstitutional, which the plaintiff was a client of *NM* Jragghen - 14/12/2010 05:35:21 PM 342 Views
Update: the judge's decision is basically nonsense. Dreaded Anomaly - 14/12/2010 08:04:27 PM 923 Views
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