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I didn't realize someone had, but it appears a militia leader was responsible (shocking, I know). Joel Send a noteboard - 17/01/2011 07:04:08 AM
I only yesterday took a direct look at what happened, because I feared to learn how much more disgusting it would get if I did. First 911 was made into a political football and now the murder of a child born that day and five others is being made one as well. Now, digging a little deeper, sure enough I'm still more disgusted and alarmed. While discussing her vandalized office she noted the danger rhetoric like Palins represented and her concerns were dismissed on the grounds that kind of language is used all the time; now she's been shot and that's still the response to cautions about provocative language. Someone says to throw bricks through the windows of everyone who voted for the healthcare bill and her office is vandalized, then she expresses concern about being in Palins crosshairs and now someone shoots her--but it's "blood libel" to even SUGGEST the past two years of militant hateful paranoia contributed to any of the things this woman has endured for the great crime of trying to serve her constituents. I remember those here and abroad who were SCARED of what people would do if Obama were elected and thinking, No, we're better than that, it's just politics; there's always nuts out there but this isn't going to stir up violence a start another Civil War. That was before a group of opportunistic demagogues began RECRUITING the crazy; now... I just don't know anymore....
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OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 16/01/2011 12:18:22 PM 2244 Views
Why are they calling it "blood libel"? - 16/01/2011 12:23:47 PM 1123 Views
Because if the facts were as they represent them those words would be applicable. - 16/01/2011 12:49:22 PM 1286 Views
It's not entirely clear to me whether you're aware of this or not, but... - 16/01/2011 01:12:22 PM 1324 Views
That's why I said, "popularized". - 16/01/2011 01:46:52 PM 1308 Views
I think Alan Dershowitz dealt with this nonsense already - 16/01/2011 02:34:10 PM 1682 Views
Interesting. I didn't realize it was so wide-spread. - 16/01/2011 03:10:28 PM 1202 Views
She wasn't even the first to use the term that week either - 16/01/2011 10:10:35 PM 1223 Views
I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 10:18:54 PM 1211 Views
Re: I don't know that "expert" has anything to do with it. - 16/01/2011 11:30:38 PM 1114 Views
Oh please don't you start to - 17/01/2011 02:34:43 PM 1045 Views
I for one hadn't noticed it before. - 17/01/2011 10:25:57 PM 1244 Views
it was used here and nobody commented - 17/01/2011 10:37:07 PM 1140 Views
LOL, I totally forgot that got posted here - 17/01/2011 10:54:26 PM 1172 Views
It's funny you should say that... - 18/01/2011 10:32:59 PM 1211 Views
Re: It's funny you should say that... - 19/01/2011 03:29:52 PM 1209 Views
It was permissible to ignore until it became a rallying cry. - 20/01/2011 04:27:23 PM 1229 Views
A rallying cry is hardly illegal - 20/01/2011 05:32:45 PM 1293 Views
I never said it was. - 20/01/2011 06:59:39 PM 1387 Views
Oh, I noticed that one alright. - 18/01/2011 10:25:23 PM 1054 Views
compared to the way similar terms are used? - 19/01/2011 06:58:02 PM 1223 Views
I meant I hadn't seen it used in different contexts before. - 19/01/2011 07:35:00 PM 1176 Views
Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 10:24:09 PM 1265 Views
Re: Indeed, my response to Legolas references Wikipedias quotation of him. - 16/01/2011 11:09:21 PM 1317 Views
Again, Giffords specifically made the connection between Palins imagery and an attack on her. - 17/01/2011 12:53:08 AM 1451 Views
That means precisely nothing - 17/01/2011 03:59:07 PM 1149 Views
It means everything. - 18/01/2011 08:34:55 PM 1391 Views
I'm trying to understand your logic - 19/01/2011 12:50:28 AM 990 Views
There are two points: - 19/01/2011 02:47:48 AM 1213 Views
Re: It means everything. - 19/01/2011 05:55:02 PM 1027 Views
That's simply illogical. - 20/01/2011 01:08:51 AM 1422 Views
the old step one steal underwear step three profit argument - 19/01/2011 06:01:14 PM 1285 Views
that is some twisted and bizarre logic - 17/01/2011 02:38:41 PM 1230 Views
So I am a little confused on something... - 16/01/2011 02:38:59 PM 1275 Views
Palin putting Giffords district in the crosshairs and Giffords implying at the time she feared this - 16/01/2011 11:21:36 PM 1415 Views
If I understand what you are saying correctly... - 17/01/2011 07:07:56 AM 1142 Views
I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 08:33:47 AM 1172 Views
Re: I'm sorry you so badly misunderstand. - 17/01/2011 04:24:01 PM 1245 Views
The Secret Service does guard Congressmen, just not all of them automatically. - 18/01/2011 09:13:39 PM 1040 Views
No, they don't - 18/01/2011 10:19:34 PM 1238 Views
Really? Cannoli says differently, and I believe he's right on that one. - 18/01/2011 10:50:51 PM 1340 Views
You seem to be reading what you want to from what I said - 19/01/2011 01:27:32 PM 1181 Views
I read what you said & understood it as you restate here, hence I referenced local police (twice) - 20/01/2011 02:15:17 AM 1241 Views
The problem here is your ignoring normal policing powers to concoct an absurdity - 20/01/2011 04:20:25 PM 1316 Views
More absurd than the notion such incitement warrants no notice? - 20/01/2011 05:42:47 PM 1295 Views
really because people post that kind of crap daily and nothing happens - 20/01/2011 05:57:52 PM 1120 Views
Your shifting your original premise, *again* - 20/01/2011 08:24:18 PM 1142 Views
No, you're simply missing the point of it. - 20/01/2011 11:09:57 PM 1155 Views
There is no point - 21/01/2011 12:22:30 AM 1205 Views
If I had no point I wouldn't bother, but fair enough. - 21/01/2011 01:20:32 AM 1448 Views
Uh...Last I checked conservatives didn't list the Communist Manifesto as a favourite book. - 16/01/2011 03:05:07 PM 1466 Views
You're awesome at missing points, aren't you? - 16/01/2011 07:26:30 PM 1211 Views
where is the accountability for those committing slander? - 17/01/2011 02:52:40 PM 1124 Views
Libs hate Mein Kampf and We the Living; conservatives hate the Communist Manifesto: He's neither. - 16/01/2011 10:06:02 PM 1138 Views
conseartives hate Mein Kampf and liberals stil read the Communist Manifesto - 17/01/2011 02:57:22 PM 1126 Views
That first line is says it all. - 18/01/2011 09:34:06 PM 1235 Views
Nazis had more in common with communist then capitalist - 19/01/2011 04:10:09 PM 1323 Views
The founder of fascism called it "the merger of corporate and national power". - 20/01/2011 02:51:09 AM 1225 Views
and that is supposed to mean something? - 20/01/2011 06:06:18 PM 1214 Views
YOU are cherry picking. - 20/01/2011 07:50:21 PM 1160 Views
It is to be expected that this site would be libtard central... - 16/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1441 Views
See my reply to Dragonsoul above. - 16/01/2011 07:30:40 PM 1278 Views
Yeah, your first was better - 16/01/2011 09:48:58 PM 1128 Views
Palin didn't really have anything to do with this, but it makes sense she's blamed. - 16/01/2011 10:19:51 PM 1163 Views
Pretty much. - 16/01/2011 11:44:35 PM 1219 Views
Did they ever catch the person(s) that vandalized Gifford's office? *NM* - 17/01/2011 03:30:36 AM 563 Views
I didn't realize someone had, but it appears a militia leader was responsible (shocking, I know). - 17/01/2011 07:04:08 AM 1169 Views
politcal offices are vandalized on a regular basis *NM* - 17/01/2011 02:41:29 PM 532 Views
She only asked if they caught the guy, she didn't accuse anyone, Sarah. - 18/01/2011 11:27:18 PM 1111 Views
OK Olberman when did I imply otherwise? *NM* - 19/01/2011 02:48:41 PM 576 Views
"Political offices are vandalized on a regular basis". - 20/01/2011 03:16:39 AM 1294 Views
Took you this long, huh? - 17/01/2011 01:53:31 PM 1042 Views
I am sick of the desperate attempts of liberals to find a way to use a tragedy - 17/01/2011 02:31:18 PM 1083 Views
I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:23:47 PM 1041 Views
Re: I'm just curious. - 17/01/2011 03:28:04 PM 1208 Views
I always said I'd do that after Bush was re-elected. - 18/01/2011 11:52:45 PM 1083 Views
like I said a matter of faith - 17/01/2011 04:27:51 PM 1065 Views
I find it interesting... - 17/01/2011 05:31:54 PM 1209 Views
I mention her looks solely because... - 20/01/2011 02:30:42 PM 1091 Views
If slander, not mine, Giffords' (at least you don't err like Palin and say, "libel" ). - 18/01/2011 11:14:23 PM 1273 Views
mark you calendar today is the day Joel offically went around the bend into insanity - 19/01/2011 05:28:06 PM 1118 Views
A mirror will show me who's to blame? On whom have I put a crosshairs? - 20/01/2011 03:23:43 AM 1136 Views
so it is all a matter of faith for you - 20/01/2011 05:48:44 AM 1081 Views
No, it's fairly straight forward logic. - 20/01/2011 03:25:56 PM 1183 Views
sorry Joel but you haven't - 20/01/2011 03:29:49 PM 979 Views
It's there; in this thread alone people from both sides of the aisle have acknowledged that. - 20/01/2011 05:51:21 PM 1079 Views
only in your does the connection exisit - 20/01/2011 06:39:35 PM 1105 Views
No. - 20/01/2011 07:35:09 PM 1224 Views
dude wake up - 20/01/2011 08:54:33 PM 1316 Views
So in your opinion... - 17/01/2011 05:27:58 PM 1073 Views
How 'bout simply color coding them? - 18/01/2011 11:21:03 PM 1118 Views
Why not just blame Giffords? - 17/01/2011 06:07:14 PM 1423 Views
Indeed, why not; Sarah Palin does. - 18/01/2011 06:58:01 PM 1240 Views
The irony of this thread is not lost on me. - 19/01/2011 04:09:01 PM 1249 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 19/01/2011 04:51:40 PM 633 Views
Bizarre thread for that Soapbox - 19/01/2011 05:17:58 PM 1004 Views
You missed the point, obviously. - 19/01/2011 06:04:23 PM 1101 Views
so you are saying it is the same old RAFO - 19/01/2011 06:47:24 PM 1178 Views
The thread has admittedly degenerated - 19/01/2011 07:02:12 PM 1023 Views
Check your NB. Noted you a response. *NM* - 19/01/2011 07:04:58 PM 595 Views
That I knew it would go this way is why I avoided looking closely for so long. - 19/01/2011 11:20:44 PM 1255 Views
Hey, now. I have to step in. - 20/01/2011 04:44:49 PM 1291 Views
I'm just saying a significant link can be demonstrated. - 20/01/2011 07:07:27 PM 1344 Views
Re: OK, I'm Officially Sick of the "Blood Libel" BS. - 22/01/2011 05:49:44 PM 1278 Views

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