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Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM
Since I like language-learning, I tell you what: find 15 people at this site (you can count me) who are serious about learning Irish and I will study it intensely along with you.

I am certainly interested in learning Irish, and it's not even THAT far down the list of priorities in language learning, but far enough that I doubt I'll get around to it any time soon.
Seriously. I will do it. But only if there are 15 people. Fifteen righteous people to save a language. ;)

Yeah, I doubt I'm going to get to fifteen. :P Or at least to fifteen who are willing to make serious efforts in that direction in the near future. We've only got four Irish people here (and one American residing in Ireland) that I can think of off the top of my head, then there's a few others who would be interested in learning it - Angie, for one - but fifteen, no.
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So the Irish government has basically imploded. Stephen - 23/01/2011 04:47:10 PM 1715 Views
I am now confused Camilla - 23/01/2011 05:34:31 PM 1078 Views
You won't be the only person Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:21:23 PM 983 Views
You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:27:05 PM 1103 Views
Re: You do realize Britain is pretty much the envy of the Western world at the moment? Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:34:47 PM 1035 Views
I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:41:34 PM 1009 Views
Re: I did. There was more violence than in ours, that's true (ours have none so far, knock on wood). Camilla - 23/01/2011 06:43:41 PM 956 Views
Those protests were only violent by British standards. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:54:15 PM 1102 Views
Really? Camilla - 24/01/2011 12:03:38 AM 938 Views
But... Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:28:17 PM 997 Views
Re: But... Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:30:39 PM 1246 Views
What protests? Wibble - 24/01/2011 07:26:49 PM 1083 Views
Re: What protests? Camilla - 24/01/2011 07:28:40 PM 931 Views
Re: What protests? Nebhead - 25/01/2011 09:23:17 AM 1071 Views
There's a new objection Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:38:25 AM 993 Views
I didn't object... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:47:11 AM 882 Views
Re: I didn't object... Camilla - 25/01/2011 11:49:36 AM 849 Views
If you look at the bottom of that list... Nebhead - 25/01/2011 11:58:24 AM 934 Views
And Britain had to live with the Conservative Wilderness for 15 years before it could get there *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2011 02:43:16 AM 509 Views
Should I start chiming in on Norwegian politics now that I'm here...? Joel - 24/01/2011 12:42:03 AM 968 Views
Why not? Camilla - 24/01/2011 08:49:07 AM 1034 Views
'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Joel - 26/01/2011 01:55:13 AM 1055 Views
Re: 'Cos I doubt you'll like what I have to say, for one thing. Camilla - 26/01/2011 08:42:04 AM 1077 Views
I misconstrued your sarcasm, sorry. Joel - 26/01/2011 10:23:40 AM 1230 Views
That's been a while coming, hasn't it? Cowen seems to be losing it. Legolas - 23/01/2011 05:48:30 PM 1007 Views
Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:27:27 PM 1074 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 06:33:26 PM 1026 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 07:19:03 PM 1124 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 07:57:05 PM 972 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 09:29:03 PM 1079 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Legolas - 23/01/2011 09:46:20 PM 1039 Views
I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:45:34 PM 996 Views
Re: I think Adams is an Irish citizen, and not a British one. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:53:12 PM 989 Views
The part that I find strange is... Tim - 23/01/2011 11:58:27 PM 966 Views
Re: Certainly. he's been on dodgy ground for a couple months. Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:45:39 PM 873 Views
I found out something else today which makes it even better. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:37:45 PM 1171 Views
I was reading your post and going "what about the Chiltern Hundreds"? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:44:32 PM 989 Views
Today's news: it got better again! Tim - 26/01/2011 07:51:51 PM 1054 Views
Oh, alternatively we could elevate him to the House of Lords. Tim - 26/01/2011 11:08:44 PM 1011 Views
Awesome idea. Something like "Baron Adams of Londonderry", I'm thinking. *NM* Legolas - 27/01/2011 07:54:26 PM 490 Views
We made his arch-rival a Lord, after all, so it would only be fair. Tim - 28/01/2011 08:26:15 AM 951 Views
"This is the voice of a life peer" Michael - 28/01/2011 02:18:04 PM 1066 Views
Here you go Elaine - 25/01/2011 12:55:33 PM 1103 Views
That's the site I found too. Tim - 25/01/2011 01:25:56 PM 938 Views
Right. Elaine - 25/01/2011 01:42:49 PM 1173 Views
well, the only interesting thing in swedish politics is a wikileaks document and the reactions... jh - 23/01/2011 06:21:00 PM 1062 Views
That's interesting Stephen - 23/01/2011 06:32:05 PM 1023 Views
What is inappropriate about trying to keep out barbaric unskilled people? Tom - 23/01/2011 10:59:53 PM 1031 Views
The inappropriateness is the generalisation in the claim Camilla - 23/01/2011 11:16:52 PM 1000 Views
Generalizations are inappropriate when they are disproven by statistics, and appropriate when proven Tom - 24/01/2011 07:33:14 PM 953 Views
I've looked into the statistics a bit more. Tom - 24/01/2011 09:11:52 PM 969 Views
I take it you're talking about the Middle East in its most narrow sense here. Legolas - 24/01/2011 09:56:22 PM 1003 Views
... the fact that they are asylum seekers, and their skill certainly shouldn't matter in that case. jh - 24/01/2011 07:08:14 PM 893 Views
Schweden schafft sich ab, eh? Tom - 24/01/2011 07:31:33 PM 1163 Views
Not to mention... ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:55:26 PM 888 Views
ßelals Girl - 26/01/2011 07:46:19 PM 1005 Views
Hopefully they'll stop using Irish officially as a way to cut down on unnecessary costs. Tom - 23/01/2011 10:57:08 PM 949 Views
I'd support that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:26:20 PM 1029 Views
Ironically, if you de-officialised Irish you could get EU money to help preserve it. Tim - 23/01/2011 11:48:14 PM 925 Views
I never realised that Stephen - 23/01/2011 11:54:43 PM 951 Views
But why, why? Tom - 24/01/2011 08:35:43 PM 910 Views
Because it's the only thing justifying their insistence they're not British? Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:03:54 PM 971 Views
But all language learning should be purely voluntary (after what parents teach their children). Tom - 25/01/2011 03:05:28 AM 945 Views
What, so you don't think students in high school should be taught foreign languages? Legolas - 25/01/2011 06:34:21 PM 974 Views
Irish is the mother tongue of about 7,000-15,000 people at most. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:04:00 AM 1003 Views
Wikipedia says it's more like 40k-80k. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:41:41 PM 1371 Views
And Elaine, Stephen, or any other Irish people here: do feel free to comment. *NM* Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:42:36 PM 491 Views
Inflated statistics from what I've read. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:45:51 PM 913 Views
They might be, indeed. Elaine - 27/01/2011 01:08:09 PM 1157 Views
More to the point, are YOU interested in learning Irish? Tom - 26/01/2011 05:15:18 AM 914 Views
Calling Ireland the new Sodom and Gomorrah, are you? Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:02:05 PM 1063 Views
I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Tom - 26/01/2011 09:48:54 PM 1016 Views
Re: I don't think it's as fun as Sodom and Gomorrah, at least not post-crisis. Legolas - 27/01/2011 08:42:21 PM 895 Views
Presumably because they agree with J.R.R. Tolkien and Tómas Sæmundsson about language's importance. Tim - 24/01/2011 10:16:05 PM 1058 Views
So Australians and New Zealanders are really English then? Austrians are just Germans? Tom - 25/01/2011 03:01:14 AM 1012 Views
I never said I agreed . Tim - 25/01/2011 08:19:11 AM 981 Views
I would suggest that a distinct dialect does the job just as well majander - 25/01/2011 02:23:59 PM 1010 Views
That's a very good point. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:06:32 AM 985 Views
Indeed. Legolas - 26/01/2011 06:06:00 PM 1037 Views
The thing is, people who feel really strongly about that usually insist it's a separate language. Tim - 28/01/2011 04:20:57 PM 864 Views
It's really more about having a unique silly costume to wear at Miss Universe pageants. Tom - 26/01/2011 05:09:10 AM 854 Views
You're confusing what we sell to gullible American tourists with what we actually value . *NM* Tim - 28/01/2011 04:15:01 PM 435 Views
What the hell happened to the Celtic Tiger Country? *NM* Blaine - 24/01/2011 05:47:12 AM 563 Views
Thrown away on bling and tat, unfortunately. Elaine - 24/01/2011 01:01:27 PM 887 Views
The Celtic Tiger is dead, Ireland had a GDP contraction of 14% in the last two years. Roland00 - 24/01/2011 01:47:06 PM 970 Views
It's still there, but it aimed a bit too high and got a bit scorched. Legolas - 24/01/2011 10:07:36 PM 858 Views
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