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I'm aware; I'm just not sure why that makes Aaron Rodgers the Most Valuable Player. Joel Send a noteboard - 08/02/2011 02:04:41 PM
the packers won fair and square, non-interference call to end the game and everything included. you're basically arguing that the pack should have won the game without the use of their defense when we all know it's a TEAM effort to win the game. we might as well talk of the lack of legitimacy of the cowboys win over the steelers because neil o'donnell threw those picks right at larry brown. "oh, the cowboys didn't deserve to win the super bowl because it was only their defense that let them get the short field necessary to score" :rolleyes:

I'm just saying give credit where due; this is hardly a vindication of the WCO. Even NFL.com says Rodgers was OK rather than electric, and despite Roethlisbergers gaffes Pittsburgh had 49 more net yards than Green Bay (that the Packers managed a whopping 52 rushing yards despite playing with a lead for almost the whole game is probably a lot of why). Sure, the better team won; even if I say Roethlisberger gave it to ya'll (which I definitely am NOT) that's like saying O'Donnell gave it to Dallas, and even if true would really just mean that's one way in which the winner was better than the loser. Do you think I have any illusions about what won SB XXX though? As much as I liked the Cowboys offense during the Johnson glory days, they limped through the SB and never had a solid #2 WR after Alvin Harper (hence Deion playing the spot), and, like Green Bay last night, had maybe one championship worthy offensive drive all game. The rest of the time their D gave them great field position, either with turnovers or by refusing to surrender points.

Although, to be fair, the Steelers lost for a lot of other reasons, too; the Roethlisberger pick six was enough, and so was asking a subpar kicker to try a 52 yarder that gave GB great field position for a drive that ended in a TD. Green Bay was the better team, and they won, mostly because of what they did on defence, as evidenced by the fact Pitt gained more yards but scored less points.
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Super Bowl XLV Pick 'Em: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers Joel - 06/02/2011 10:54:32 PM 831 Views
I'll go with the Steeelers... LordPerrin - 06/02/2011 11:04:10 PM 527 Views
At least they're not the Packers. Joel - 06/02/2011 11:32:18 PM 624 Views
Ill go with the Packers (not as many accused rapists on that team) *NM* Aisha - 06/02/2011 11:31:43 PM 308 Views
Guilty once accused? Joel - 06/02/2011 11:59:01 PM 637 Views
Packers! nossy - 06/02/2011 11:57:53 PM 580 Views
Bleah, but OK. Joel - 07/02/2011 12:02:01 AM 660 Views
And the Packer pick off! nossy - 07/02/2011 12:08:27 AM 583 Views
I'm'a stop responding to you 'cos Roethlisberger throws a dumb pick every time I do. Joel - 07/02/2011 12:47:23 AM 635 Views
Re: Bleah, but OK. TaskmasterJack - 07/02/2011 10:29:35 PM 610 Views
He did get pushed into Roethlisberger at a very inopportune time. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:31:27 PM 836 Views
Re: He did get pushed into Roethlisberger at a very inopportune time. TaskmasterJack - 09/02/2011 12:16:22 AM 694 Views
Obviously I pick the Pack... Dannymac - 07/02/2011 01:04:18 AM 622 Views
The good news is Roethlisberger's a mediocre QB. Joel - 07/02/2011 02:23:45 AM 624 Views
"Oh, we can't throw deep on 2nd and short because we might loose the ball". Joel - 07/02/2011 02:32:43 AM 680 Views
Better keep replying. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 02:38:15 AM 518 Views
Seriously? Joel - 07/02/2011 03:20:44 AM 672 Views
Thanks! Dannymac - 07/02/2011 03:31:29 AM 578 Views
NP Joel - 07/02/2011 04:11:40 AM 656 Views
Pack won by 6. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 04:21:06 AM 564 Views
Right, I keep forgetting the last FG, sorry. Joel - 07/02/2011 06:19:50 AM 624 Views
The offense scored 24 points against the best points defense in the NFL. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 08:54:37 AM 651 Views
On a very short field all but one of the times they got into the end zone. Joel - 07/02/2011 09:43:57 AM 639 Views
joel -- give it up moondog - 07/02/2011 01:35:11 PM 604 Views
I didn't say they didn't win fair and square. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:36:22 PM 584 Views
i can't help that you will always look for the cloud to every silver lining moondog - 08/02/2011 01:37:38 AM 597 Views
Again, I'm just saying give credit where it's due, and that's the Packers defence, by a fair margin. Joel - 08/02/2011 02:02:05 PM 651 Views
The Steelers lost because they couldn't move the ball on their last drive random thoughts - 08/02/2011 01:58:28 PM 772 Views
I'm aware; I'm just not sure why that makes Aaron Rodgers the Most Valuable Player. Joel - 08/02/2011 02:04:41 PM 632 Views
because he is the QB random thoughts - 08/02/2011 03:23:23 PM 632 Views
So what? Joel - 08/02/2011 03:39:15 PM 694 Views
QB is the de facto MVP of the super bowl when nobody else stands out moondog - 08/02/2011 03:55:32 PM 656 Views
The forced fumble and the pick six are the two things I point to as game winners. Joel - 08/02/2011 04:52:27 PM 736 Views
game winning plays are different than consistent play throughout the game moondog - 09/02/2011 01:56:53 AM 824 Views
didn't you call Romo a choker because he hasn't won the big games? random thoughts - 08/02/2011 04:24:04 PM 715 Views
Because he's LOST big games as a direct result of things he actually DID. Joel - 08/02/2011 04:56:00 PM 668 Views
no it is a team sport and the his poor play at QB is not the reason they lost those games random thoughts - 08/02/2011 05:16:22 PM 583 Views
and random thoughts - 08/02/2011 05:17:49 PM 756 Views
i think joel's problem is less the west coast offense and more his disdain for all things packers moondog - 07/02/2011 01:33:10 PM 584 Views
There's enough hatred in my heart for both the Packers and the WCO. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:42:51 PM 687 Views
What Denver cheated talk? Dannymac - 07/02/2011 07:44:39 PM 833 Views
All the talk about cut blocking being the same as chop blocking. Joel - 08/02/2011 03:02:38 PM 789 Views
My persoanl preiction was the mirror opposite of the actual result. *NM* Stephen - 07/02/2011 03:31:08 AM 261 Views
I hate when that happens. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:55:35 AM 613 Views
gghrhahrhghg! ßelals Girl - 07/02/2011 04:08:17 AM 641 Views
For once we agree completely. Joel - 07/02/2011 04:17:50 AM 839 Views
Actually we just beat the second coming... Dannymac - 07/02/2011 04:23:46 AM 620 Views
I loathe both teams and their fans; I find Packers fans far more insufferably arrogant. Joel - 07/02/2011 06:28:22 AM 658 Views
Super Bowls, Super Bowls, Super Bowls. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 08:42:39 AM 681 Views
Pittsburgh isn't a large market? That matters since the Pack instituted drafts and profit sharing? Joel - 07/02/2011 09:34:03 AM 660 Views
Quite true. We are significantly better than sliced bread. Dannymac - 07/02/2011 07:34:57 PM 581 Views
I know which I prefer. Joel - 08/02/2011 03:14:11 PM 688 Views
actually.... moondog - 09/02/2011 01:37:54 AM 535 Views
oh, you're a cowboys fan again? moondog - 07/02/2011 01:42:58 PM 614 Views
I never stopped being a Cowboys fan. Joel - 07/02/2011 03:53:03 PM 647 Views
I was going for Steelers. Kronin al'Sulc - 07/02/2011 05:53:38 AM 530 Views
Aw, Pitt doesn't seem so bad... Joel - 07/02/2011 06:29:09 AM 659 Views
I was going for Steelers. Kronin al'Sulc - 07/02/2011 05:53:38 AM 608 Views
Emphatically, it seems. Joel - 07/02/2011 09:46:18 AM 554 Views
Re: Super Bowl XLV Pick 'Em: Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers Kaldric - 07/02/2011 12:08:10 PM 544 Views
Yick. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:32:31 PM 529 Views
It's awesome because it's MST3K Kaldric - 08/02/2011 05:01:17 PM 602 Views
HAHAHAHA!! moondog - 09/02/2011 01:40:16 AM 695 Views
i'm gonna go out on another limb and pick the packers to win the super bowl! moondog - 07/02/2011 01:32:32 PM 610 Views
Yeah, I kinda figured that went without saying. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:39:17 PM 705 Views
Great game. callandor1000 - 07/02/2011 02:49:22 PM 517 Views
It was exciting, but I'm more inclined to agree with Palatine about the quality. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:46:47 PM 721 Views
Re: It was exciting, but I'm more inclined to agree with Palatine about the quality. callandor1000 - 08/02/2011 02:32:53 PM 680 Views
Slo mo counts on replays; that's the point. Joel - 08/02/2011 03:24:23 PM 604 Views
despise everything they represent??? moondog - 09/02/2011 01:54:07 AM 718 Views
Re: Slo mo counts on replays; that's the point. callandor1000 - 09/02/2011 02:48:55 PM 932 Views
I don't pick teams, I root for teams. Palatine - 07/02/2011 06:06:50 PM 471 Views
I can pick a team when I don't care who wins; would that that had been the case here. Joel - 08/02/2011 01:57:20 PM 612 Views
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