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It can? Aeryn Send a noteboard - 23/02/2011 04:34:40 AM
There are books with no pictures that are considered porn and there is spoken word audio that is considered porn so it is hardly a stretch to include lyrics if the lyrics explicitly talk about coming on people's faces and sticking your finger up their ass. The guy shouldn’t go to jail to 20 years but this was also no silly prank where he should just be slapped on the wrist either.


Really? I question the first part. I can buy a book with erotic stories in Barnes & Noble, shelved just like anything else, no proof of age required. Maybe I just can't think of any examples. Yes, song lyrics are censored, but clubs play the uncensored versions and that doesn't turn them into sleaze shops. Spoken or written word, while it could be explicit and pornographic, just doesn't equal pictoral representation and is not judged in the same way. I welcome examples to the contrary.
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musician jailed over youtube prank -- faces 20+years plus child porn charges moondog - 20/02/2011 07:55:33 AM 1184 Views
Yay for home! MrFarstrider - 20/02/2011 12:20:14 PM 735 Views
Re: Yay for home! everynametaken - 22/02/2011 05:05:49 AM 724 Views
Mmmm, there is more to it . At first I was thinking it was much ado about nothing. Tashmere - 20/02/2011 03:31:51 PM 965 Views
This explains what happened better and lets me feel a little mercy for the guy. Tashmere - 20/02/2011 03:59:41 PM 1063 Views
as stated, the children were never exposed to the "adult only" performance moondog - 20/02/2011 04:35:32 PM 737 Views
So I guess the moral of this story is think before you put things on the internet. *NM* Darth_Katie - 20/02/2011 06:10:32 PM 281 Views
He should get the pants sued off him. Ghavrel - 20/02/2011 07:08:56 PM 632 Views
His only mistake was not getting them to sign something, allowing to be posted on youtube A Deathwatch Guard - 21/02/2011 01:51:30 AM 711 Views
kids don't have that right. The parents would have needed to sign. *NM* random thoughts - 21/02/2011 07:24:04 PM 303 Views
The lyrics were hilarious? The sample I read and posted had nothing funny in them...maybe you can Tashmere - 22/02/2011 12:35:05 AM 612 Views
Well ... from this parents perspective dart_board - 21/02/2011 12:33:25 PM 712 Views
Lol and people say human beings aren't civilized *NM* Dark Knight - 21/02/2011 05:32:32 PM 286 Views
Re: Lol and people say human beings aren't civilized dart_board - 22/02/2011 02:19:48 PM 647 Views
Stupid and in bad taste, but certainly not worth jail time *NM* ironclad - 21/02/2011 12:41:28 PM 294 Views
For using the childrens' faces without permission he could be sued for monetary damages. Tom - 21/02/2011 01:50:19 PM 746 Views
Re: For using the childrens' faces without permission he could be sued for monetary damages. moondog - 21/02/2011 03:46:48 PM 725 Views
Tashmere's first reply above has a sample of the lyrics and how they were cut with the video. *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 21/02/2011 03:58:35 PM 271 Views
Agreed, that's really the only thing I can see that he can be sued for here. *NM* Legolas - 25/02/2011 10:36:53 PM 256 Views
"Oh, I didn't actually abuse any of those kids." Sareitha Sedai - 21/02/2011 02:37:00 PM 652 Views
Agreed. But being an asshat is not a crime. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/02/2011 05:02:59 PM 260 Views
No, it's not. Sareitha Sedai - 21/02/2011 05:22:05 PM 734 Views
no but using children to create sexually explicit material is random thoughts - 21/02/2011 07:36:32 PM 741 Views
"sexually explicit material" is different than "obscene" moondog - 22/02/2011 02:43:49 AM 672 Views
That is debatable. Tashmere - 22/02/2011 05:25:46 AM 643 Views
you don't believe both can describe language? random thoughts - 22/02/2011 02:30:16 PM 606 Views
Yes, this was disgusting, but since when does dirty lyrics = porn? Aeryn - 22/02/2011 04:18:05 PM 711 Views
The written word can be considered porn so why not song lyrics? random thoughts - 22/02/2011 05:04:37 PM 653 Views
It can? Aeryn - 23/02/2011 04:34:40 AM 727 Views
Yep Isaac - 23/02/2011 05:04:49 AM 704 Views
Actually, obscenity is one of the most poorly defined concepts in US law. Ghavrel - 26/02/2011 09:57:21 PM 798 Views
Yes, I've posted on the Miller Test Isaac - 26/02/2011 10:54:11 PM 845 Views
Penthouse letters is porn random thoughts - 24/02/2011 12:52:31 AM 641 Views
Am I the only one thinking of The Exorcist here? Legolas - 25/02/2011 10:40:58 PM 783 Views
yes you are the only one thinking that *NM* random thoughts - 25/02/2011 11:33:53 PM 249 Views
You gotta admit it doesn't get much worse than that in terms of exposing children to obscenity. Legolas - 26/02/2011 12:13:46 AM 650 Views
I need say I don't think he should go to prison for twenty years random thoughts - 26/02/2011 07:30:17 PM 687 Views
Yes that is a name Bramhodoulos - 21/02/2011 09:04:19 PM 804 Views
Inappropriate of course but child porn? Give me a break! *NM* everynametaken - 22/02/2011 05:06:20 AM 323 Views
defamation maybe Aeryn - 22/02/2011 04:21:03 PM 597 Views
Not sure if anyone else has asked this... Antigone - 25/02/2011 01:19:08 PM 971 Views
kids are video taped all the time at schools random thoughts - 25/02/2011 02:05:38 PM 603 Views
School staff is one thing, outside sources are another. Avendesora - 25/02/2011 02:56:20 PM 684 Views
most states run background checks and this guy may have had one run on him random thoughts - 25/02/2011 03:19:58 PM 685 Views
he got permission from the teacher and the kids' parents before the original filming session moondog - 25/02/2011 03:20:30 PM 690 Views
they probably didn't think he would it to make a "funny" video random thoughts - 26/02/2011 07:43:59 PM 795 Views
show one example the song was about sex with children and I might agree *NM* moondog - 26/02/2011 09:23:44 PM 298 Views
If you try hard enough you can believe whatever you want random thoughts - 26/02/2011 10:09:45 PM 699 Views
and if you're determined to railroad someone none of the facts matter moondog - 26/02/2011 11:36:42 PM 847 Views
If I put out a video that had you giggling as I sung about cumming on your face you would be fine? random thoughts - 27/02/2011 09:09:25 PM 629 Views
of course not, but the 1st amendment says you have the right moondog - 27/02/2011 11:02:42 PM 596 Views
the courts ruled a long time ago that the 1st amendment does not cover all speech random thoughts - 28/02/2011 10:58:38 PM 818 Views
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