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I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* excalibur Send a noteboard - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM
i posted this as a response to a different thread, but i think it probably deserves its own spot (with acknowledgment to aisha for the suggestion). the back story:

an islamic center in orange county, california held a fundraiser to benefit women's homeless shelters. one of the local city council members gave a speech in protest saying the muslims were "pure unadulterated evil" and insinuating that the money being raised for women's shelters and schools is actually going to fund terrorists to attack the US.

the video is making the rounds as evidence that the tea party activists are inherently racist, but i think it shows more that people can be whipped into a furor over any ignorant idea no matter how stupid and illogical.
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ignorance and hate in orange county, california moondog - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1465 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night Aisha - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 1068 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few random thoughts - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 921 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 861 Views
and you believe the Tea Party is electing terrorist to office? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 03:17:49 PM 868 Views
"I know quite a few Marines who will be very happy to help these terrorists to paradise". Joel - 14/03/2011 07:17:02 PM 909 Views
which terrorist was she talking about? You don't even have context just a propaganda video random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:13:22 PM 978 Views
That she directed it toward the whole event rather than specific people is the whole problem. Joel - 14/03/2011 09:53:29 PM 823 Views
really? you have unedited video of her doing that? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:01:57 PM 972 Views
She said, "what's going on over there is PURE UNADULTERATED evil". Joel - 15/03/2011 12:21:16 AM 906 Views
you sure seem to know alot about what she meant from just hearing two clips out of context random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:47:44 PM 827 Views
No, I'm just not being obtuse about her clear meaning because she's on "my side". Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:21 PM 920 Views
You could see where she was pointing? All I saw were flags random thoughts - 15/03/2011 08:45:02 PM 902 Views
Ooooh, she was pointing out her fellow flag waving REPUBLICANS are terrorists. Joel - 15/03/2011 09:01:13 PM 968 Views
and you know her well enough to know what she is saying random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:37:16 PM 1108 Views
I know ENGLISH well enough to know what she's saying; you're the only who thinks WHO said it matters Joel - 15/03/2011 10:54:04 PM 1103 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* excalibur - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 595 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california dart_board - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 934 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* Dan - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 446 Views
Somewhat Isaac - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 956 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... Tom - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 982 Views
Oh, agreed Isaac - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 954 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting random thoughts - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 1088 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 995 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 930 Views
Three, by my count. Joel - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 918 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count random thoughts - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 946 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? Joel - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 920 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 775 Views
I'm aware of no such case, let alone people being elected to Congress for doing it. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:19:53 PM 1019 Views
if you have evidience he supported verbal assults you should post it random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:03:19 PM 900 Views
He MADE verbal assaults, and video of it was posted at the start of the thread. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:23:12 AM 863 Views
why is it hard to grasp the "destrtoying America" is a common phrase used by boht sides random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:53:29 PM 1004 Views
Yeah, but people shouldn't be paying their elected officials to (literally) subject them to it. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:05 PM 933 Views
oh and here is the film making them victims being celibrated by Variety random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:10:00 PM 1031 Views
Funny how they got ARRESTED instead of elected to public office. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:25:17 AM 905 Views
and now the left is trying to tuen them into martyrs, which was my point. What was yours? random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:57:04 PM 905 Views
Doesn't seem like "the left" is trying to turn them into martyrs, let alone electing them to office. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:12 PM 1208 Views
the little piece of propeganda is likely to win SXSW film festival random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 877 Views
Which proves many people find sensationalized violence entertaining, and that Austinites are idiots. Joel - 15/03/2011 10:52:19 PM 1004 Views
More than anything it seems like America is importing the "no good guys here" phenomenon. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:41:07 PM 897 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california alliandrina - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 890 Views
The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff. Joel - 14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM 1086 Views
do you believe there is single group the Tea Party? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM 900 Views
I believe a majority elected public officials encouraging violence against their own constituents. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:12:59 PM 981 Views
I thought you needed proof before accussing someone of a crime random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:04:05 PM 981 Views
Whether or not this reaches the level of criminality is a good question. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:36:40 AM 1143 Views
yes but first you will have to prove she in inciting violience random thoughts - 15/03/2011 07:55:47 PM 923 Views
She wants the Marines to assist US citizens to paradise; I think it's proven. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:29 PM 872 Views
no Joel isn't proven and if you think it is you need to look up what the proof means random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:36:32 PM 865 Views
"Those terrorists" was a blanket statement directed at the people attending the fundraiser. Joel - 15/03/2011 10:52:51 PM 1056 Views
prove it random thoughts - 16/03/2011 01:12:55 AM 1038 Views
So we're back to "prove what you've already proven multiple times" again; fine, I'm done then. Joel - 16/03/2011 02:16:35 AM 909 Views
Is it acceptable.... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 882 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. Joel - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 923 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 921 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 902 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 777 Views
No, just quoting it. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 869 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 880 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? Joel - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 935 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 791 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? Joel - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 1042 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said random thoughts - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1110 Views
She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears. Joel - 16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM 829 Views
Simmer down Jeordam - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 924 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 920 Views
Don't be foolish... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 860 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... Joel - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 866 Views
no different than using a quote out of context moondog - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 956 Views
Too clarify... Isaac - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 921 Views
Re: Too clarify... moondog - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 924 Views
Re: Too clarify... Isaac - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 906 Views
Notice..... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 856 Views
Re: Notice..... moondog - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 953 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* Stephen - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 401 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 817 Views
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