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She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM
two statements that are not even connected, of course you ignore the edit break, in a video that has already proven to be misleading. Watching the video give the impression that the elected officials were part of the protest screaming insults at people as they walk by. Since that part appears to misleading I have no faith that they wouldn't mislead with their editing. I doubt you would like what she said but to claim she is advocating murder based on the two snippets you saw is frankly stupid. As for your moaning that a congressman claiming that honoring an unabashed supporter of suicide is destroying America really dude you need to get over it because you know as well as I do that Pelosi (an actual leader of the party and not one you have never heard of)has said worse about better people.

Like Stephen said, we've had this discussion: She's an elected Republican, and thus incapable of wrongdoing, just as I'm a liberal and thus incapable of doing anything right. Hitler's a liberal, too, and Mubarak re-introducing private industry to Egypt makes him one as well, because those things fit your world view, and don't confuse you with facts, right? You decry "propaganda" and "editing" yet edit the factual record whenever convenient. I'm done; last word is yours, though since you're just going to deny the facts and accuse your opponents again I'm not sure why you'd bother.

I show you a US Congressmans urging us to support terrorists murdering innocents because he says they aren't "morally responsible" for their own actions, who's got FAMILY in a terrorist group but is "investigating" fellow Congressmen with NO known ties to terrorism and STILL defends terrorists he liks because "they didn't attack the United States". Your response? "Pelosi is worse!" Like I said, if a Republican leader was caught ripping the heads off puppies your only response would be "it's OK because liberals are worse" (which is pretty much how Peter King defends his own preferred brand of terrorism). Never freaking mind; I pray that attitude really is the fringe minority you claim, even though the evidence indicates otherwise. When they come to burn you at the stake for not sharing their religion, be sure to tell them you're not a liberal. ;)
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ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1615 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 1225 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 1081 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 1025 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 690 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 1107 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 516 Views
Somewhat - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 1191 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 1125 Views
Oh, agreed - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 1115 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 1234 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 1156 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 1075 Views
Three, by my count. - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 1083 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 1105 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 1091 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 950 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 1040 Views
The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff. - 14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM 1244 Views
do you believe there is single group the Tea Party? - 14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM 1064 Views
Is it acceptable.... - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 1046 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 1099 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 1085 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 1059 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 922 Views
No, just quoting it. - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 1029 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 1066 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 1122 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 955 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 1192 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1285 Views
She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears. - 16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM 974 Views
Simmer down - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 1103 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 1095 Views
Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 1017 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 1015 Views
no different than using a quote out of context - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 1109 Views
Too clarify... - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 1054 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 1074 Views
Re: Too clarify... - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 1065 Views
Notice..... - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 1017 Views
Re: Notice..... - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 1108 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 480 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 999 Views

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