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It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM
he says we have been given a sign from Mother Natures. Now it is possible he is talking about islands affect by global warming but it isn't clear that is what is talking about. I think the statement is ambiguous enough to warrant a request for clarification.

In those very words: "The earthquake and tsunami will clearly have a severe impact on the economic and social activities of the region. Some islands affected by climate change have been hit". Again, the only way we can pretend he MIGHT mean something else is to ignore those words and reduce his comments to "Mother Nature has given us a sign that is what we should do", a statement that means nothing, because it doesn't state what the sign is nor what action it should prompt. Limbaughs words don't suffer from that uncertainty: He says very clearly and unambiguously, "This has to be a tough call for the environmentalists around the world. They're scrambling now to blame this on global warming". What needs clarification there? Saying that environmentalists are scrambling to blame the earthquake, tsunami and potential nuclear disaster on global warming needs RETRACTION, and desperately, but no one should need additional commentary to understand it. You want to talk about double standards? You're pretending the President of the EESC didn't say something he unequivocally said, just so you can pretend Rush said something he unequivocally DIDN'T.
As for Rush do we even know if this is the case he is referring to or is just and example Isaac gave? So no it isn't crystal clear what Rush was saying because we don't even know which environmentalist or statement he was referring to, mostly because the statement was taken out of context.

It's the only thing that's even been SUGGESTED as the case to which Limbaugh was referring; that Isaac couldn't find a better example speaks volumes, as does the fact that Limbaugh apparently made the statement without providing any example proving his accusation, forcing his defenders to seek one. If he had provided such an example we'd be criticizing the idiot who made the comment instead of THIS idiot for making the accusation. Your defense boils down to "someone, somewhere, who's an enviromentalist, MAY have said global warming caused the tsunami, so we should take Rushs word on that, without evidence, and accept on faith his statement that 'they're scrambling now to blame this on global warming'". Sorry, Rush Limbaugh doesn't have that kind of credibility with me; very few people do, and you wouldn't take it on faith if I said, "Republicans are scrambling to blame cancer on liberalism".
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 914 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 822 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 624 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 774 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 793 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 786 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 715 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 302 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 262 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 706 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 591 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 717 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 735 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 562 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 668 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 646 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 906 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 735 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 642 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 610 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 684 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 742 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 639 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 622 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 641 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 604 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 655 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 735 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 680 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 605 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 706 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 672 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 615 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 739 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 629 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 795 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 671 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 566 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 256 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 745 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 634 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 638 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 759 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 244 Views

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