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No, I think you're still missing my point Isaac Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM
Yes, that is the correct transcript, and I see you definitely got that point about how it should be included with the original post or people's view points are skewed going into it.

I see nothing in the broader context that changes how I first read the quote as a stand alone quote, it just confirms my reading of it.


No, that's the point, you wouldn't. Look, do you hear me about the EESC guy, I still think his comments were bad because of the soundbite, I really have no idea if I would have read that in context and complete and just waived it outside or been more outraged then I am now, and it doesn't matter, because my view it tainted by the soundbite.

which also makes me think my reading of your first post is right - you could have posted a link to the transcript to start with but opted not to and instead posted in a misleading fashion about an "environmentalist"


You seem to be of the opinion that I was trying for a hit piece on the EESC president, and that for some strange reason I went ahead and posted the whole thing and talked about how it wasn't so bad in context, then suggested people dig up Rush's and see if it was similar.

MWAHAHAHA!!! You've seen through my sinister plan, er, or something! My whole goal was to prove that hyper-partisan blogs and sites and pundits are totally objective sources of information who never take things out of context, by pointing out one from my side of the aisle that took something rather out of context. Drat! Foiled again!

Seriously, it does not behoove us to do these endless "X said this!" posts, all you get is people singing with the choir and even if what X said is shown to be wrong, or even right, nobody wants to change their mind. The point is that posters need to have those context with the original post, and if they can't find them, they shouldn't post it, because they don't even know if it is or isn't in context. At best they'll end up right for all the wrong reasons.
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 960 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 901 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 669 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 822 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 849 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 899 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 766 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 326 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 308 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 773 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 640 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 775 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 787 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 612 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 716 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 695 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 954 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 789 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 690 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 658 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 737 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 800 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 686 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 663 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 718 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 651 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 708 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 812 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 733 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 656 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 753 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 720 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 666 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 786 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 682 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 856 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 721 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 614 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 279 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 796 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 682 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 685 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 802 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 284 Views

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