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Well, that's one good idea right there. Joel Send a noteboard - 28/03/2011 04:44:25 PM
There are simply millions more dogs then there are people who want them. We do have laws for people mistreat animals and they are are enforced when they are caught. Hearing about the way some people treat their animals it bothers but to be honest how some people treat their kids bothers me a lot more.

I think one thing we could do it stop neutering male dogs and give them vasectomies instead. That would have a real impact on the population since they would still be competing for females. Neutering males is not about population control it is about behavior modification and confusing the two really does nothing to correct the problem.

I don't know the cost; online searches just now were inconclusive and vague (someone did mention their dog only having a day of "down time" after neutering, but that seems more like the exception than the rule). I'm embarrassed to admit this never occurred to me, even when considering the potential impact on stray breeding. Neutering the stray population does have SOME impact by reducing the number of dogs that can breed, but nothing like preserving a populations mating drive yet removing its fertility would (particularly since neutering alone means the reduced pool of fertile males will simply breed with more fertile females). There were a few comments that vasectomies are "simpler and easier" so I doubt there's much price difference, and a large population of infertile breeding partners in the general stray population would likely be a large net benefit without significantly harming anyones quality of life.
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This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!) - 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM 1684 Views
Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals. - 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM 996 Views
No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me. - 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM 1160 Views
Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option. - 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM 835 Views
I don't know that they are, at least, not any more so than feral cats or feral teens. - 28/03/2011 04:27:44 PM 784 Views
how many people are mauled by house cats? - 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM 722 Views
Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though. - 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM 895 Views
How many stiches did it take to fix it? - 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM 901 Views
It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs - 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM 861 Views
Interesting how that comparison keeps being made.... - 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM 872 Views
Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets. - 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM 981 Views
I can at least respect the honesty of that. - 31/03/2011 11:43:02 PM 869 Views
I made myself a promise. - 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM 761 Views
I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM 951 Views
Well, we differ on this, certainly. - 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM 993 Views
how very 1960 of you - 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM 805 Views
To answer... - 29/03/2011 04:09:33 AM 807 Views
This is an interesting subthread to observe.... - 28/03/2011 04:52:04 PM 852 Views
You succeeded. - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM 870 Views
Undoubtedly. - 29/03/2011 04:12:12 AM 797 Views
You also have to consider pack animal behaviour. - 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM 941 Views
It's ironic that I read this after I wrote that above. - 27/03/2011 11:30:06 PM 998 Views
don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM* - 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM 417 Views
Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life". - 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM 873 Views
and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side - 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM 878 Views
A dog that can make a deer run will hunt it. - 31/03/2011 11:32:24 PM 1045 Views
I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack. - 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM 906 Views
Are you serious? - 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM 728 Views
There are a few things wrong with that. - 31/03/2011 11:11:27 PM 783 Views
I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go. - 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM 862 Views
Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs* - 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM 947 Views
I'm trying to spend that time on "me" stuff. - 29/03/2011 04:13:54 AM 787 Views
Probably wise; good luck and God bless with that. - 01/04/2011 12:27:09 AM 963 Views
It is sad but what can you do? - 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM 887 Views
Well, that's one good idea right there. - 28/03/2011 04:44:25 PM 805 Views
I'm not sure how this would be helpful? - 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM 770 Views
I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM 879 Views
I was with you until... - 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM 770 Views
I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side - 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 893 Views
Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives? - 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM 716 Views
If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female. - 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM 752 Views
WHY??? *NM* - 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM 363 Views
Wait, no, you're right. - 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM 791 Views
no no you were right - 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM 777 Views
Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM 369 Views
Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first! - 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM 989 Views
I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering! - 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM 992 Views
Do you know what else is absurd? - 29/03/2011 04:09:37 AM 749 Views
A clown reading Camus? *NM* - 29/03/2011 05:31:21 AM 345 Views
that would be absurd, glad I never even suggested it *NM* - 29/03/2011 02:13:39 PM 368 Views
I think you just made my point - 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM 834 Views
Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM 854 Views
proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason - 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM 887 Views
I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM 754 Views
that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you - 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM 845 Views
Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males - 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM 822 Views
how hard it is makes zero differience - 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM 802 Views
I think that last bit was uncalled for. *NM* - 29/03/2011 04:15:44 AM 334 Views
not at all - 29/03/2011 01:23:03 PM 812 Views
For the uneducated of us (i.e. me) - 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM 833 Views
Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM* - 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM 384 Views
Someone needs to sit my dog down and explain this to him. - 28/03/2011 09:59:25 PM 752 Views
you probably had him cut to late - 29/03/2011 02:27:49 AM 801 Views

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