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You succeeded. Vivien Send a noteboard - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM
Just because you succeeded doesn't mean 1. everyone will and 2. you had it as bad as it could possibly be. I have to say, you were born an american citizen. Could be worse.

I don't think it's morally justifiable to waste the immense amount of resources necessary to make all shelters no-kill when people are suffering, largely due to situations outside of their control.

I understand, but I disagree.

I was talking about budget shortfalls and not hurricanes, but given the prevalence of the "blame New Orleans" mentality that gets tossed around regarding Katrina, I think it's really important to point out that those who were affected disproportionately represent the class of people who lack the ability to just get up and move somewhere. But they're largely poor and black, so it's a lot easier to laugh at them for being stupid than it is to acknowledge serious systemic issues.

Well, fair enough. But I look at it this way: I was born poor. My parents work in a barn and no one in my family had completed high school, let alone college. (My mom has since gotten a GED.)
Anyway, I went to college full time and I worked full time. After that, I left a bad situation to make a difference in my life. Just because you're "poor and black" doesn't mean that you don't have choices just like I did. If you want to make a change in your life, do so.
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This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!) - 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM 1694 Views
Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals. - 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM 1007 Views
No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me. - 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM 1171 Views
Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option. - 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM 864 Views
I don't know that they are, at least, not any more so than feral cats or feral teens. - 28/03/2011 04:27:44 PM 793 Views
how many people are mauled by house cats? - 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM 733 Views
Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though. - 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM 903 Views
How many stiches did it take to fix it? - 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM 913 Views
It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs - 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM 871 Views
Interesting how that comparison keeps being made.... - 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM 879 Views
Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets. - 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM 996 Views
I can at least respect the honesty of that. - 31/03/2011 11:43:02 PM 879 Views
I made myself a promise. - 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM 774 Views
I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM 970 Views
Well, we differ on this, certainly. - 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM 1006 Views
how very 1960 of you - 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM 817 Views
To answer... - 29/03/2011 04:09:33 AM 816 Views
This is an interesting subthread to observe.... - 28/03/2011 04:52:04 PM 863 Views
You succeeded. - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM 883 Views
Undoubtedly. - 29/03/2011 04:12:12 AM 812 Views
You also have to consider pack animal behaviour. - 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM 952 Views
It's ironic that I read this after I wrote that above. - 27/03/2011 11:30:06 PM 1011 Views
don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM* - 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM 421 Views
Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life". - 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM 884 Views
and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side - 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM 890 Views
A dog that can make a deer run will hunt it. - 31/03/2011 11:32:24 PM 1055 Views
I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack. - 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM 918 Views
Are you serious? - 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM 738 Views
There are a few things wrong with that. - 31/03/2011 11:11:27 PM 798 Views
I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go. - 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM 873 Views
Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs* - 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM 956 Views
I'm trying to spend that time on "me" stuff. - 29/03/2011 04:13:54 AM 800 Views
Probably wise; good luck and God bless with that. - 01/04/2011 12:27:09 AM 972 Views
It is sad but what can you do? - 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM 898 Views
I'm not sure how this would be helpful? - 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM 781 Views
I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM 904 Views
I was with you until... - 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM 782 Views
I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side - 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 913 Views
Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives? - 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM 724 Views
If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female. - 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM 763 Views
WHY??? *NM* - 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM 366 Views
Wait, no, you're right. - 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM 801 Views
no no you were right - 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM 789 Views
Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM 375 Views
Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first! - 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM 1006 Views
I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering! - 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM 1006 Views
Do you know what else is absurd? - 29/03/2011 04:09:37 AM 761 Views
A clown reading Camus? *NM* - 29/03/2011 05:31:21 AM 348 Views
that would be absurd, glad I never even suggested it *NM* - 29/03/2011 02:13:39 PM 372 Views
I think you just made my point - 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM 863 Views
Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM 861 Views
proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason - 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM 895 Views
I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM 764 Views
that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you - 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM 868 Views
Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males - 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM 835 Views
how hard it is makes zero differience - 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM 813 Views
I think that last bit was uncalled for. *NM* - 29/03/2011 04:15:44 AM 338 Views
not at all - 29/03/2011 01:23:03 PM 822 Views
For the uneducated of us (i.e. me) - 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM 844 Views
Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM* - 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM 389 Views
Someone needs to sit my dog down and explain this to him. - 28/03/2011 09:59:25 PM 764 Views
you probably had him cut to late - 29/03/2011 02:27:49 AM 826 Views

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