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I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* Vivien Send a noteboard - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM
Then what is your reasoning for only fixing females


It seems to me to be a glaring error that any competent biology student should be able to see through. Usually when you see that there other motives at work than those stated. The rational side of me says it is simply for behavior modification and they want to decrease dog attacks and believe neutered males are less likely to bite so they throw it in with population control simply because no one calls them on it. Another possibility is I am under estimating how many partners a bitch can go through and a having few sterilized males in the mix would change nothing. I am willing admit that my knowledge of canine sexuality doesn’t extend much beyond what I seen have going on it backyards. My theory sounds good to me but I am a layman and it is very possible that I missing some key element.

The cynical side of suggest that such programs are run mostly by liberal feminist (lets be honest animal control is not a field that draws conseratives) who do not believe it is fair for the females to forced to be altered and they are treated equally they want them both to be fixed. The truly cynical side of me believes they prefer all males be castrated and had to settle for just the pets. I wouldn't listen to the cynical side if it wasn't for the fact that it is right so often.


Well if you want to control the population doesn't it make sense to fix both? Why would treating both sexes equally be a radical thing?


No it doesn't make sense to treat them equally. That has been the point I was making. I think putting human politics in animal control is radical.
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This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!) - 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM 1720 Views
Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals. - 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM 1025 Views
No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me. - 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM 1194 Views
Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option. - 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM 888 Views
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how many people are mauled by house cats? - 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM 781 Views
Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though. - 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM 939 Views
How many stiches did it take to fix it? - 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM 930 Views
It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs - 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM 892 Views
Interesting how that comparison keeps being made.... - 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM 899 Views
Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets. - 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM 1024 Views
I can at least respect the honesty of that. - 31/03/2011 11:43:02 PM 903 Views
I made myself a promise. - 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM 793 Views
I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM 985 Views
Well, we differ on this, certainly. - 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM 1031 Views
how very 1960 of you - 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM 831 Views
To answer... - 29/03/2011 04:09:33 AM 845 Views
This is an interesting subthread to observe.... - 28/03/2011 04:52:04 PM 901 Views
You succeeded. - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM 907 Views
Undoubtedly. - 29/03/2011 04:12:12 AM 852 Views
You also have to consider pack animal behaviour. - 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM 971 Views
It's ironic that I read this after I wrote that above. - 27/03/2011 11:30:06 PM 1027 Views
don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM* - 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM 434 Views
Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life". - 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM 906 Views
and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side - 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM 910 Views
A dog that can make a deer run will hunt it. - 31/03/2011 11:32:24 PM 1075 Views
I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack. - 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM 970 Views
Are you serious? - 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM 758 Views
There are a few things wrong with that. - 31/03/2011 11:11:27 PM 818 Views
I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go. - 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM 890 Views
Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs* - 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM 971 Views
I'm trying to spend that time on "me" stuff. - 29/03/2011 04:13:54 AM 836 Views
Probably wise; good luck and God bless with that. - 01/04/2011 12:27:09 AM 995 Views
It is sad but what can you do? - 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM 916 Views
I'm not sure how this would be helpful? - 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM 802 Views
I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM 923 Views
I was with you until... - 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM 799 Views
I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side - 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 935 Views
Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives? - 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM 742 Views
If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female. - 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM 784 Views
WHY??? *NM* - 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM 376 Views
Wait, no, you're right. - 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM 828 Views
no no you were right - 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM 809 Views
Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM 385 Views
Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first! - 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM 1026 Views
I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering! - 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM 1023 Views
Do you know what else is absurd? - 29/03/2011 04:09:37 AM 792 Views
A clown reading Camus? *NM* - 29/03/2011 05:31:21 AM 370 Views
that would be absurd, glad I never even suggested it *NM* - 29/03/2011 02:13:39 PM 396 Views
I think you just made my point - 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM 890 Views
Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM 881 Views
proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason - 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM 917 Views
I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM 788 Views
that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you - 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM 904 Views
Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males - 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM 855 Views
how hard it is makes zero differience - 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM 826 Views
I think that last bit was uncalled for. *NM* - 29/03/2011 04:15:44 AM 360 Views
not at all - 29/03/2011 01:23:03 PM 861 Views
For the uneducated of us (i.e. me) - 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM 864 Views
Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM* - 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM 397 Views
Someone needs to sit my dog down and explain this to him. - 28/03/2011 09:59:25 PM 780 Views
you probably had him cut to late - 29/03/2011 02:27:49 AM 851 Views

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