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Except that "football" is not a major. LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 07/04/2011 07:35:37 PM
SO you read a lot of books and glue ugly "sculptures" together. What the hell good does that do the rest of us? If you want to study literature get a library card and a join a book club. If you want to be an artist go be an artist because it doesn't take a college degree to glue flies to wall.

Questioning what is worthy to be in a college is dangerous game to start when you are the liberal arts side of the world.


Certainly, it's a dangerous game to begin playing with majors, but football is extracurricular. It's not like the art/lit people are being given scholarships to make macaroni sculptures in their spare time. They're learning painting techniques, art history, psychology, history, sociology, composition, etc...etc... all as part of their worthy/unworthy degree.

There's nothing academic about sports. Well there is, but those people are in degrees like kinesthesiology (sp?), sports medicine, etc... I mean that there is nothing academically related about actually playing football for the university. You don't take courses in throwing physics or Intro to Trauma Care or the airflow around a football in the air and how it affects optimal flight paths. I suppose you CAN, but it's not actually part of being a football player.

The ONLY difference in "worth" of varsity sports versus intramurals is that the varsity sports bring money in to the university, and varsity athletes get some academic perks like tutoring.


Even if you think it's "worthless", a liberal art major is still learning and involved in academics by virtue of being a liberal art major. A football player is involved in learning and academics by virtue of needing to be enrolled in the college in order to play. Removing sports from a school has no direct impact on its academics (beyond loss of money). Removing majors from a school is a direct influence on its academics.

Am I explaining this well? Do you get what I'm trying to say? I feel like I'm not :/
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Hey college sports guys.. - 06/04/2011 06:17:34 PM 1024 Views
speaking as a former student athlete... - 06/04/2011 06:43:13 PM 616 Views
I agree with this. *NM* - 06/04/2011 09:16:43 PM 220 Views
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If they're in college, fuck no. But should they be in college in the first place? - 06/04/2011 07:57:03 PM 663 Views
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Except that "football" is not a major. - 07/04/2011 07:35:37 PM 634 Views
I do believe they recieve college credit for playing - 08/04/2011 02:14:31 PM 514 Views
Yah, in the same manner I got PE credit for doing Marching Band... - 08/04/2011 09:05:55 PM 449 Views
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2/10; would not recommend this trolling. - 09/04/2011 09:35:28 PM 502 Views
pointing out the unpopular is not trolling *NM* - 10/04/2011 03:38:35 AM 205 Views
Posting purposefully incorrect statements to get a rise out of people is. *NM* - 10/04/2011 08:48:02 AM 267 Views
what was the incorrect statement? *NM* - 11/04/2011 07:18:52 PM 215 Views
Playing ignorant doesn't really suit you. - 11/04/2011 11:48:15 PM 518 Views
that may be, but the fact of the matter is that it isn't. *NM* - 10/04/2011 12:19:14 AM 244 Views
Do you speak from experience or is it simply a matter of faith? *NM* - 10/04/2011 03:37:31 AM 229 Views
so you do know of a school with a football major? - 10/04/2011 04:50:17 PM 516 Views
Havn't we been playing them under the table all this time? *NM* - 06/04/2011 08:52:09 PM 335 Views
I'm already pissed they get scholarships for being able to play football. They can join the NFL - 07/04/2011 12:50:15 AM 619 Views
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It does help schools raise money, AND it does help the players - 07/04/2011 07:38:31 PM 579 Views
That's why there are need and merit-based scholarships - 09/04/2011 03:22:09 PM 522 Views
I get the rationale, it just annoys me. *NM* - 09/04/2011 03:20:05 PM 218 Views
No. Sports brings in huge amounts of money to popular schools. *NM* - 09/04/2011 03:27:33 PM 209 Views
So no one should profit if everyone can't? - 10/04/2011 06:25:44 PM 504 Views
Really? - 07/04/2011 02:03:32 PM 537 Views
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I'm...not really sure what that means. - 08/04/2011 09:10:17 PM 483 Views
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How is that statistic presented? - 09/04/2011 03:13:54 PM 474 Views
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I did not say it was. - 10/04/2011 12:20:54 AM 525 Views
so we should just rely on your unbiased judgment and ignore facts? *NM* - 10/04/2011 03:39:40 AM 224 Views
Yes that is precisely what I am asking. YOU CAUGHT ME *NM* - 10/04/2011 05:25:52 PM 221 Views
well since you seem unable to support your arguments that must be the case *NM* - 11/04/2011 07:22:33 PM 213 Views
If that is what helps you sleep at night *NM* - 11/04/2011 07:51:50 PM 198 Views
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Most profeesors are weak kneed liberals who are still mad that they were shoved in lockers - 10/04/2011 03:45:36 AM 702 Views
I laughed out loud. That was grand. - 10/04/2011 08:46:29 AM 453 Views
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All right, man. Whatever makes you happy. *NM* - 11/04/2011 11:49:12 PM 194 Views
That funny coming from you *NM* - 13/04/2011 12:05:30 AM 186 Views
Err... I don't care? My point was that colleges shouldn't give a damn about athletics - 09/04/2011 03:25:24 PM 584 Views
Because college is only about what YOU think it should be about? - 09/04/2011 04:14:03 PM 480 Views
And yet we seem to agree that college is about education - 09/04/2011 07:29:31 PM 610 Views
you said you are pissed that they recieve scholarships - 09/04/2011 07:45:02 PM 513 Views
Or girls? - 08/04/2011 03:03:55 PM 473 Views
I can agree with this - 08/04/2011 09:12:54 PM 465 Views
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Re: Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. - 11/04/2011 03:18:47 AM 453 Views
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