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Except that "football" is not a major. LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 07/04/2011 07:35:37 PM
SO you read a lot of books and glue ugly "sculptures" together. What the hell good does that do the rest of us? If you want to study literature get a library card and a join a book club. If you want to be an artist go be an artist because it doesn't take a college degree to glue flies to wall.

Questioning what is worthy to be in a college is dangerous game to start when you are the liberal arts side of the world.


Certainly, it's a dangerous game to begin playing with majors, but football is extracurricular. It's not like the art/lit people are being given scholarships to make macaroni sculptures in their spare time. They're learning painting techniques, art history, psychology, history, sociology, composition, etc...etc... all as part of their worthy/unworthy degree.

There's nothing academic about sports. Well there is, but those people are in degrees like kinesthesiology (sp?), sports medicine, etc... I mean that there is nothing academically related about actually playing football for the university. You don't take courses in throwing physics or Intro to Trauma Care or the airflow around a football in the air and how it affects optimal flight paths. I suppose you CAN, but it's not actually part of being a football player.

The ONLY difference in "worth" of varsity sports versus intramurals is that the varsity sports bring money in to the university, and varsity athletes get some academic perks like tutoring.


Even if you think it's "worthless", a liberal art major is still learning and involved in academics by virtue of being a liberal art major. A football player is involved in learning and academics by virtue of needing to be enrolled in the college in order to play. Removing sports from a school has no direct impact on its academics (beyond loss of money). Removing majors from a school is a direct influence on its academics.

Am I explaining this well? Do you get what I'm trying to say? I feel like I'm not :/
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Hey college sports guys.. @my - 06/04/2011 06:17:34 PM 1189 Views
speaking as a former student athlete... LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 06:43:13 PM 775 Views
I agree with this. *NM* Darth_Katie - 06/04/2011 09:16:43 PM 284 Views
Not a college sports guy, but I agree with LadyLorraine. Joel - 06/04/2011 07:17:07 PM 749 Views
I don't think that exact scenario would come up... LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 07:33:03 PM 717 Views
Generally, I don't think they should get paid. Fox and Ravens - 06/04/2011 07:29:29 PM 680 Views
If they're in college, fuck no. But should they be in college in the first place? Legolas - 06/04/2011 07:57:03 PM 866 Views
I believe it's because sports like basketball and football want to see your college career LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 08:47:24 PM 843 Views
Why not have young players prove themselves in the pro leagues immediately? *NM* Legolas - 06/04/2011 09:40:24 PM 266 Views
*shrug* ask them. less risk this way? *NM* LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 10:09:39 PM 302 Views
Football players don't mature until their early 20s at the earliest Larry - 06/04/2011 10:52:50 PM 817 Views
I assume you mean why don't the NFL and NBA teams develop their own young players? snoopcester - 07/04/2011 11:32:49 AM 701 Views
I say keep the sports and get wrid of all the worthless arts and lit programs random thoughts - 07/04/2011 02:07:36 PM 735 Views
Except that "football" is not a major. LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:35:37 PM 803 Views
I do believe they recieve college credit for playing random thoughts - 08/04/2011 02:14:31 PM 663 Views
Yah, in the same manner I got PE credit for doing Marching Band... LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:05:55 PM 608 Views
RIt would be no harder to make football a degree program random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:11:13 PM 657 Views
2/10; would not recommend this trolling. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 09:35:28 PM 659 Views
pointing out the unpopular is not trolling *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:38:35 AM 266 Views
Posting purposefully incorrect statements to get a rise out of people is. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 08:48:02 AM 334 Views
what was the incorrect statement? *NM* random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:18:52 PM 276 Views
Playing ignorant doesn't really suit you. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 11:48:15 PM 671 Views
that may be, but the fact of the matter is that it isn't. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 12:19:14 AM 306 Views
Do you speak from experience or is it simply a matter of faith? *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:37:31 AM 295 Views
so you do know of a school with a football major? LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 04:50:17 PM 672 Views
Havn't we been playing them under the table all this time? *NM* grogg0316 - 06/04/2011 08:52:09 PM 412 Views
I'm already pissed they get scholarships for being able to play football. They can join the NFL beetnemesis - 07/04/2011 12:50:15 AM 774 Views
Sports bring in such a huge amount of money to schools though. Darth_Katie - 07/04/2011 04:32:37 AM 673 Views
It does help schools raise money, AND it does help the players LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:38:31 PM 696 Views
That's why there are need and merit-based scholarships beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:22:09 PM 682 Views
I get the rationale, it just annoys me. *NM* beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:20:05 PM 281 Views
No. Sports brings in huge amounts of money to popular schools. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 03:27:33 PM 268 Views
So no one should profit if everyone can't? Darth_Katie - 10/04/2011 06:25:44 PM 659 Views
Uh, no they can't just join the NFL. They have to have 2.5 years out of high school. *NM* everynametaken - 07/04/2011 04:49:07 AM 318 Views
Really? random thoughts - 07/04/2011 02:03:32 PM 708 Views
well...if anything that just means there should be MORE emphasis on academics... LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:26:49 PM 804 Views
That is a personal decsion they made random thoughts - 08/04/2011 02:16:17 PM 688 Views
I'm...not really sure what that means. LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:10:17 PM 631 Views
The graduation rate for athletes overall is higher than the general undergrad student body, it seems Larry - 09/04/2011 02:57:43 PM 783 Views
How is that statistic presented? LadyLorraine - 09/04/2011 03:13:54 PM 616 Views
schools are full of fluff classes and it isn't just because of sports random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:21:57 PM 594 Views
I did not say it was. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 12:20:54 AM 686 Views
so we should just rely on your unbiased judgment and ignore facts? *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:39:40 AM 298 Views
Yes that is precisely what I am asking. YOU CAUGHT ME *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:25:52 PM 300 Views
well since you seem unable to support your arguments that must be the case *NM* random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:22:33 PM 275 Views
If that is what helps you sleep at night *NM* LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 07:51:50 PM 260 Views
You seem to be the one who needs to think football are less intelligent *NM* random thoughts - 13/04/2011 12:06:29 AM 260 Views
I said nothing about intelligence at any point LadyLorraine - 13/04/2011 03:58:18 AM 649 Views
That's because you risk your tenure if you fail the sports darlings. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 03:24:19 PM 620 Views
your facts counter your argument not support it random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:18:02 PM 759 Views
I'm repeating what professors have told me firsthand. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 09:33:10 PM 964 Views
Most profeesors are weak kneed liberals who are still mad that they were shoved in lockers random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:45:36 AM 848 Views
I laughed out loud. That was grand. Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 08:46:29 AM 606 Views
Sorry dude but "somone told me" really isn't a fact random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:21:48 PM 645 Views
All right, man. Whatever makes you happy. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 11:49:12 PM 254 Views
That funny coming from you *NM* random thoughts - 13/04/2011 12:05:30 AM 248 Views
Err... I don't care? My point was that colleges shouldn't give a damn about athletics beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:25:24 PM 749 Views
Because college is only about what YOU think it should be about? random thoughts - 09/04/2011 04:14:03 PM 649 Views
And yet we seem to agree that college is about education beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 07:29:31 PM 752 Views
you said you are pissed that they recieve scholarships random thoughts - 09/04/2011 07:45:02 PM 677 Views
Or girls? nossy - 08/04/2011 03:03:55 PM 627 Views
I can agree with this LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:12:54 PM 668 Views
How about yes salary, no scholarship? They're getting paid with a full college scholarship. beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:30:06 PM 734 Views
you would have the issues brought up by the article LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:15:12 PM 566 Views
Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. beetnemesis - 11/04/2011 02:57:37 AM 624 Views
Re: Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. nossy - 11/04/2011 03:18:47 AM 609 Views
if you have a full-ride... LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 03:29:42 AM 731 Views
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