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right. Aeryn Send a noteboard - 12/04/2011 11:18:31 PM
If it's rigorous science that proves the existence of the easter bunny, then that means that the easter bunny can coexist with science. There is no cognitive dissonance.


He's assuming that your belief in the non-existance of the Easter Bunny (this belief based not on science but on some other involatile reasons) is stronger than your belief in science. The Easter Bunny absolutely must NOT exist, not for any reason, not in any form, or the entire universe crumbles.

This is a horrible example. The Easter Bunny doesn't even something that might exist, like Santa Clause or angels or demons. It's a symbol, a character, a drawing. Better example would be Santa Claus. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinquishable from magic.


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right. Aeryn - 12/04/2011 11:18:31 PM 1358 Views
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Sorry :-) Helene - 14/04/2011 10:15:30 AM 1224 Views
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Heh. Loose faith. LadyLorraine - 14/04/2011 02:32:27 AM 1123 Views
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it does work. well in fact! *NM* LadyLorraine - 24/04/2011 03:24:25 AM 654 Views
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Who says..... Jeordam - 14/04/2011 04:26:31 PM 1265 Views
Wow, thanks for all the responses!! Antigone - 14/04/2011 03:42:38 AM 1289 Views
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