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Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM
First off I said I believe he was born in the US and I am not arguing otherwise. When he was born there was long form birth certificate created and signed by the doctor who delivered him and that is what the birthers are demanding to see. If they they have justification to demand that is highly questionable but such a document should exist. Obama could end the entire controversy by producing that document. Since I believe he was born in a Haywain hospital I think the document must exist so I have to ask why Obama won't produce it if ending the controversy was real goal. I suspect Obama loves this issue and wants to get as much mileage out of it as possible. I am not questioning Obama's qualification to hold office I am questioning his sincerity.


Why would he do what no other candidate did in any point of US history? Don't you think that it's very unusual to demand from the person something extra to prove when not demanding the same from the others?

I see birthers as nothing more than racists. I don't think it's coincidence that as soon as black person became strong candidate and later the President of USA some weird additional demands started popping out to prove that he's eligible.

As for the Arizona law, I would love to see it blows in their faces.
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WTF arizona? - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2216 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 1111 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 1012 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1190 Views
that's because they're morons. - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 1151 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 971 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 1192 Views
I think everyone's too little - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 1146 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 1078 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 1081 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 1013 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 958 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 1051 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 1120 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 1080 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 1056 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 1184 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1240 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 1162 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 1149 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 1107 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 989 Views
Why is it racist? - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 1001 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 1096 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 1115 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 1092 Views
OK I will try to be clearer - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 1018 Views
Why should he show it? - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 1060 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 1170 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 1066 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 573 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 502 Views
Actually - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 1137 Views
This - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 1000 Views
He already has - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 1100 Views
Don't we already do this? - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 1072 Views
actually there isn't - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 1137 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 1105 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 532 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 1082 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1260 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 1164 Views
Meh, who cares? - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 1121 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 520 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 526 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 536 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 510 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 1074 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 1063 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 519 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 557 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 1056 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 1106 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 1092 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 1116 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 992 Views
That wasn't the point - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 1052 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1299 Views
read above, he has. *NM* - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 491 Views
Provided a birth certificate? - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1689 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 1129 Views
No, actually - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 1220 Views
Re: No, actually - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 1195 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 1156 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 1177 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1238 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1376 Views
I think it is for some people. - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 1001 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 1058 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 532 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 495 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1257 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 1165 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 473 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 494 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 475 Views

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