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That wasn't the point Larry Send a noteboard - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM
We don't even know what those qualifications even are. As I pointed out in another reply we don't even know what "Natural Born Citizen" even means and I suspect that Obama would qualify even he had been born in Kenya.


Do a search for Roger Cólero, who ran as the Socialist Workers Party candidate in 2008. He appeared on a few state ballots.


the states he appeared on the ballot have pretty lax ballot access laws for third party candidates compared to states like texas and oklahoma. plus, it's not like the SWP has done anything meaningful in the last 35+ years so i don't think having this guy on 5 state ballots is really helping their cause. they seem to do more infighting than working on actual issues...


The point was someone screwed up somewhere, as he's not a "natural born citizen" of the United States. He shouldn't have appeared on any ballots if there is a federal agency that certifies eligibility.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2321 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 1201 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 1106 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1285 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 1229 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 1060 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 1309 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 1277 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 1160 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 1168 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 1083 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 1060 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 1145 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 1231 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 1173 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 1164 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 1271 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1325 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 1265 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 1238 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 1175 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 1160 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 1065 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 1068 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 1172 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 1196 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 1162 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 1100 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 1148 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 1323 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 1151 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 617 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 567 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 1254 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 1229 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 1079 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 1185 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 551 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 1146 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 1229 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 1180 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 582 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 1162 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1346 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 1238 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 1196 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 573 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 1193 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 576 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 577 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 549 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 1159 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 559 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 546 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 1144 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 572 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 623 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 619 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 1131 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 1213 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 1157 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 1188 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 1066 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 1141 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1387 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 534 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1857 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 1223 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 1111 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 1304 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 1283 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 1234 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 1327 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1326 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1468 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 1082 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 1175 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 597 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 540 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1281 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1346 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 1234 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 516 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 540 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 518 Views
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