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Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM
First off I said I believe he was born in the US and I am not arguing otherwise. When he was born there was long form birth certificate created and signed by the doctor who delivered him and that is what the birthers are demanding to see. If they they have justification to demand that is highly questionable but such a document should exist. Obama could end the entire controversy by producing that document. Since I believe he was born in a Haywain hospital I think the document must exist so I have to ask why Obama won't produce it if ending the controversy was real goal. I suspect Obama loves this issue and wants to get as much mileage out of it as possible. I am not questioning Obama's qualification to hold office I am questioning his sincerity.


Why would he do what no other candidate did in any point of US history? Don't you think that it's very unusual to demand from the person something extra to prove when not demanding the same from the others?

I see birthers as nothing more than racists. I don't think it's coincidence that as soon as black person became strong candidate and later the President of USA some weird additional demands started popping out to prove that he's eligible.

As for the Arizona law, I would love to see it blows in their faces.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2240 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 1134 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 1035 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1219 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 1175 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 997 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 1219 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 1177 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 1097 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 1100 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 1033 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 984 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 1075 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 1154 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 1116 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 1088 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 1205 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1260 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 1192 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 1176 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 1127 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 1076 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 1005 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 1020 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 1121 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 1132 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 1112 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 1038 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 1083 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 1206 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 1090 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 583 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 529 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 1193 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 1165 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 1024 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 1133 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 520 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 1095 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 1166 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 1129 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 544 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 1103 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1281 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 1184 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 1146 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 535 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 1138 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 538 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 542 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 520 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 1099 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 527 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 510 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 1082 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 525 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 575 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 586 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 1080 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 1134 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 1112 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 1135 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 1021 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 1078 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1323 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 504 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1737 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 1164 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 1041 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 1244 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 1219 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 1181 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 1222 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1260 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1398 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 1024 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 1080 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 547 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 506 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1220 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1277 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 1187 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 483 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 510 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 484 Views
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