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Why should he show it? everynametaken Send a noteboard - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM
First off I said I believe he was born in the US and I am not arguing otherwise. When he was born there was long form birth certificate created and signed by the doctor who delivered him and that is what the birthers are demanding to see. If they they have justification to demand that is highly questionable but such a document should exist. Obama could end the entire controversy by producing that document. Since I believe he was born in a Haywain hospital I think the document must exist so I have to ask why Obama won't produce it if ending the controversy was real goal. I suspect Obama loves this issue and wants to get as much mileage out of it as possible. I am not questioning Obama's qualification to hold office I am questioning his sincerity.


From a political perspective he can continue to let "birthers" keeping making asses of themselves. I've heard the theory that producing it might be his "October Surprise". We'll see, but it is more politically expedient for him to not show.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2183 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 1080 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 984 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1170 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 1126 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 941 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 1162 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 1120 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 1047 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 1056 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 987 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 928 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 1020 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 1092 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 1052 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 1033 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 1160 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1210 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 1135 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 1119 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 1077 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 1023 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 954 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 974 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 1071 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 1089 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 1062 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 990 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 1027 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 1140 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 1045 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 561 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 491 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 1140 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 1101 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 962 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 1074 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 498 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 1043 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 1104 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 1079 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 520 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 1053 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1228 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 1127 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 1091 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 500 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 1093 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 517 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 519 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 496 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 1046 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 506 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 488 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 1035 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 508 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 546 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 566 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 1030 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 1082 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 1061 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 1085 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 965 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 1020 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1273 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 482 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1640 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 1098 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 984 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 1187 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 1163 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 1128 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 1144 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1212 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1349 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 964 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 1029 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 522 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 484 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1169 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1221 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 1137 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 462 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 481 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 463 Views
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